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post Jun 28 2011, 07:42 AM
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Is there a proper test for the dizzy vac adv unit? i.e., how many pounds vac and how long should it hold. Also, what about the retard side; the same?
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post Jun 29 2011, 11:29 AM
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Wow, I really thought the charts had made it into the tab at the top of the page. And I couldn't find the info you mentioned on Pelican.

So, here's a chart from Way Back When:

http://web.archive.org/web/20031213100259/...ch/distrib.html

If I recall correctly, I made all of the advance/retard figures into crankshaft degrees when I put the chart together. Also crankshaft RPM, so you can just look at the tach.

The general idea is that you have the base static timing, which is set by rotating the distributor body. Then you have the centrifugal advance, which is added to the static timing depending on engine RPM. Then you have the vacuum advance and retard, which are added to the timing after that.

To verify those figures, you would either have to set up a degree wheel or degree scale of some sort on your fan shroud, or use the advance knob on a timing light equipped with one and check what knob adjustment results in the TDC mark showing up in the timing notch.

So you could check the timing at idle, and at 1500 RPM, and at 3500 RPM, all without the vacuum advance/retard hooked up. Then you could use a vacuum pump to pull a specific level of vacuum on the advance only, and run the engine at 1500 RPM (or 3500 RPM) and see what knob setting shows the TDC mark at the timing notch. The difference between the centrifugal advance and the one with the given level of vacuum on the advance fitting is the amount of vacuum advance. Repeat at different vacuum levels, and repeat all over again with the retard only.

Kind of a pain, if you ask me...

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76-914   Vac Advance Unit   Jun 28 2011, 07:42 AM
tod914   If you hook your Mityvac up while the advance is m...   Jun 28 2011, 09:20 AM
orange914   Do you want to check advance curve spec.'s or...   Jun 28 2011, 10:38 AM
Hammy   I've never seen any numbers, I tried searching...   Jun 28 2011, 10:54 AM
76-914   When I pulled on the advance side(I refuse to say ...   Jun 28 2011, 11:45 AM
underthetire   When I pulled on the advance side(I refuse to say...   Jun 28 2011, 12:00 PM
r_towle   question. Does the car idle ok when you pull the a...   Jun 28 2011, 11:48 AM
Cap'n Krusty   question. Does the car idle ok when you pull the ...   Jun 28 2011, 12:23 PM
orange914   you would be able to hold pressure though. RIch...   Jun 28 2011, 03:27 PM
Cap'n Krusty   [quote name='Cap'n Krusty' post='1501310' dat...   Jun 28 2011, 06:06 PM
Cap'n Krusty   You're right, it's bad. Gonna be VERY dif...   Jun 28 2011, 12:19 PM
r_towle   I know it holds a vacuum... I did not think there ...   Jun 28 2011, 12:33 PM
tod914   I had wrong vac. units in cars already. Be sure t...   Jun 28 2011, 01:05 PM
76-914   question. Does the car idle ok when you pull the ...   Jun 28 2011, 02:59 PM
914_teener   The Cap'n [/quote] So it should move the arm w...   Jun 28 2011, 03:15 PM
tod914   Made some difference when I put the proper one on....   Jun 28 2011, 03:43 PM
SLITS   Hey Kent .... I have some new negative pressure va...   Jun 28 2011, 07:55 PM
Dave_Darling   The factory manual has diagrams of vacuum versus d...   Jun 28 2011, 10:51 PM
76-914   The factory manual has diagrams of vacuum versus ...   Jun 29 2011, 08:38 AM
Dave_Darling   Wow, I really thought the charts had made it into ...   Jun 29 2011, 11:29 AM
76-914   :agree: but then again many things are a pita unti...   Jun 29 2011, 04:25 PM


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