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Steve73
post Jul 18 2011, 02:12 AM
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I'm trying to bring a dead 914 back to life. I have done the usual prep work and have hooked up the electrical system. The car turns over strongly but there is no spark! No spark at the plugs, no spark at the coil. I have switched the coil out with one I had laying around but i'm not getting any better results. Could it be the voltage regulator located in the box where the fuel injected controls are? (mine has been converted to dual carbs BTW).

What should I try next?

Thanks in advance!
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post Jul 18 2011, 07:34 AM
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Unlikely you have two bad coils. A good coil may not show spark if the condenser is bad, the distributor has no continuity, or the points are bad or are not closing properly. With a mechanical distributor, points and coil ignition, it's commonplace to not get spark at plugs or HT coil wire because of some problem with the distributor points, condenser, or terminal connections thereof. The trouble shooting procedure is the same for any old car. The following is my version of the "looking for spark" dance.

Check the current to the coil at the coil+ terminal: Ignition on, test current with a test light or meter between coil+ terminal and ground. If no current at coil+ terminal, trace supply wire back to regulator plate (box full of relays and terminals on left side of firewall) if your car still has it. If it was removed when car converted to carburetors you'll have to trace the wire powering the coil back to its source--ultimately the ignition switch.

If you have juice at coil+, raise just one of the rear wheels and place car in 4th-5th gear. Check if current is passing through the distributor body, condensor and points by testing the negative terminal of the coil to ground while rotating (This feature is unique to lightweight rear wheel, mid or rear engine cars.) the engine. Disconnect the high tension (center) lead from the dist. just to be safe. You should see momentary current at coil- as the rotor turns, opening the points.

If you do not have a test light or meter, you can still check the distributor and points continuity in a similar way by removing the distributor cover and looking for a faint spark at the points every time they open.

If it seems that no current is passing through distributor as you turn the rotor replace points and condenser. If that doesn't help, check to see if the tiny braided ground strap inside the distributor is intact. It provides continuity between the advance plates ("floor") of distributor and the distributor body. Many members of this board, including yours truly, have experienced that ground strap to break, rendering the distributor inoperable. It's about the same diameter as a piece of yarn and approximately 1 1/2" long.

Good luck
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Steve73   No spark!   Jul 18 2011, 02:12 AM
corsepervita   How is the voltage up to the coil? The grounding? ...   Jul 18 2011, 03:52 AM
vsg914   Condensor   Jul 18 2011, 05:01 AM
Prospectfarms   Unlikely you have two bad coils. A good coil may n...   Jul 18 2011, 07:34 AM
Steve73   Unlikely you have two bad coils. A good coil may ...   Jul 18 2011, 10:39 AM
Drums66   ......Look at the grounding points, do them coil ?...   Jul 18 2011, 11:12 AM
codemasterlax   i have the same problem with mine not getting spar...   Sep 20 2011, 02:25 PM
Prospectfarms   i have the same problem with mine not getting spa...   Sep 20 2011, 02:36 PM
underthetire   i have the same problem with mine not getting spa...   Sep 20 2011, 02:44 PM
codemasterlax   i do have in a bosch coil but wht bushings   Sep 20 2011, 02:47 PM
underthetire   Grab the rotor and try and wiggle it side to side....   Sep 20 2011, 02:51 PM
codemasterlax   it does wiggle a lot but could tht also be because...   Sep 20 2011, 02:56 PM
underthetire   it does wiggle a lot but could tht also be becaus...   Sep 20 2011, 03:06 PM
codemasterlax   ok what part exactly do i need to replace on the d...   Sep 20 2011, 03:11 PM
underthetire   You would need to disassemble the dizzy, Press the...   Sep 20 2011, 03:53 PM
Cap'n Krusty   And where is he going to find bushings? The wrong...   Sep 20 2011, 05:05 PM
Prospectfarms   And where is he going to find bushings? The wron...   Sep 20 2011, 07:01 PM
underthetire   And where is he going to find bushings? The wron...   Sep 20 2011, 07:20 PM
Prospectfarms   And where is he going to find bushings? The wro...   Sep 20 2011, 09:12 PM
Steve73   Prospect Farms Thanks for asking about my 914. I ...   Sep 21 2011, 01:56 AM
underthetire   Prospect Farms Thanks for asking about my 914. I...   Sep 21 2011, 08:59 AM
Steve73   [quote name='Steve73' post='1542174' date='Sep 21...   Sep 25 2011, 09:53 PM
Steve73   I've got the engine running pretty well with t...   Oct 7 2011, 03:23 PM
vsg914   44 is the low side of the dwell. 47 would be bette...   Oct 7 2011, 04:13 PM
Prospectfarms   Per: Pelican: timing with Carbs. Set timing at 320...   Oct 7 2011, 10:25 PM
Steve73   Thanks everyone but I still need some advice about...   Oct 7 2011, 11:48 PM
Prospectfarms   Thanks everyone but I still need some advice abou...   Oct 8 2011, 09:48 PM


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