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> Wonky prices for 914 parts/cars, driven by greed, What can we do about it?
JeffBowlsby
post Oct 24 2011, 01:41 PM
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I know its all about supply and demand and what some are willing to pay, but sometimes we see pricing on 914s and 914 parts that are completely beyond reason. Some are taken by these scams. Most will recognize these ploys, but a greedy seller needs only one sucker and the whole hobby for our cars suffers.

Would it be useful if we as a club developed pricing guideline for parts/cars, based on recent sales of similar, condition, rarity, and listing other options, like available repro sources for those that are not aware?

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post Oct 24 2011, 10:31 PM
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Well, what I think is you might get into a problem with the pricing thing. Isn't it just the opposite of the guys that are price fixen, I mean just the same?? I do everything I can to make sure that I am competitive (read "lower than the compition"). Should I raise my prices? (well some of them, anyway?)

I hate used parts because they are so hard to put a price on. I hate it because I never want to cheat someone. (I have tossed stuff because I felt like asking any$$ would be asking too much) I have seen things that were out of line and I have seen things that I bought because I knew I could double my $$. If you are going to try and price guide one side you have to do it to the other too.

As for NOS- it is what it is. Certain items are just not available all the time and so the prices tend to fluctuate more. I have to admit that I listed a couple NOS items recently at prices that I thought were high but they sold quickly. The thing about the lenses on ebay is that the seller is going to pay 11% in fees if not a little more and eventually they will be worth more if the buyer keeps them new.

On the other hand, just a few days ago, I had some one post on one of my threads, where I was selling a new item at $95.00 LESS THAN the list price and what the manufacturer sells it for, saying that people could get them for less if they went to the manufacturer and asked nicely becuase the manufacturer was actually a nice guy. What, i'm not a nice guy?? Do I need to lower my price more?? This is a business for me and quite frankly, I need to make more or I am not going to last much longer. Don't get me wrong, I love the cars but I also need to make money on them or I will have to go get a job at Costco or the local mini-mart. Anyone want to buy a business???

What do we do?? If it is a used part being sold on this site and you think it is over priced and you have one to sell or know someone who has one then post it. On the otherhand, if it off this site then buyer beware. I think we could start by not deleting the old FS/WTB adds. Then you could go back and see what items sold for or ask the people who sold or bought.

BTW, when talking about ebay, please note that I never pay less than 11% in fees, even on items upt $1000 (ebay and PP combined) but rutinely pay 15%+ on items between $0 and $100. Ebay aint cheap.

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Jeff Bowlsby   Wonky prices for 914 parts/cars, driven by greed   Oct 24 2011, 01:41 PM
shoguneagle   I think Jeff has a very valid point. We should ha...   Oct 24 2011, 01:48 PM
J P Stein   Back in the day when I went to a swap meat....meet...   Oct 24 2011, 01:50 PM
r_towle   Interesting suggestion, what spawned this? In an ...   Oct 24 2011, 02:06 PM
thelogo   Yeh i've noticed this tooo . I mean ho...   Oct 24 2011, 02:07 PM
bandjoey   If we really care (and we do :D ) then the best t...   Oct 24 2011, 02:12 PM
jsconst   This is a great idea and needed service to the wor...   Oct 24 2011, 02:14 PM
rick 918-S   I think part of the issue is what guys want for pa...   Oct 24 2011, 02:22 PM
mikea100   This is a great idea and will be especially helpfu...   Oct 24 2011, 02:41 PM
JRust   That is a huge can of worms. It is pretty tough to...   Oct 24 2011, 02:56 PM
Scarlet75   I have to agree. Some members are good and easy to...   Oct 24 2011, 03:11 PM
tod914   http://www.ebay.com/itm/OE-Genuine-Porsche...=item...   Oct 24 2011, 03:21 PM
matthepcat   That's disgraceful pricing. Although with my ...   Oct 24 2011, 03:34 PM
thelogo   http://www.ebay.com/itm/OE-Genuine-Porsche...=ite...   Oct 25 2011, 12:11 PM
Elliot Cannon   [quote name='tod914' post='1560523' date='Oct 24 ...   Oct 25 2011, 09:16 PM
914rat   If you read between the lines what JP said makes s...   Oct 24 2011, 03:57 PM
eric9144   There are some vendors out there who, like the HPH...   Oct 24 2011, 04:00 PM
siverson   What's the problem? People can [try to] sell t...   Oct 24 2011, 04:20 PM
rick 918-S   What's the problem? People can [try to] sell ...   Oct 24 2011, 04:30 PM
rjames   What's the problem? People can [try to] sell ...   Oct 24 2011, 04:37 PM
rick 918-S   What's the problem? People can [try to] sell...   Oct 24 2011, 04:42 PM
vsg914   1250? Wow. I have about 20 of them. Some even have...   Oct 24 2011, 04:25 PM
BKLA   the HPH ad for taillights is not a good example. T...   Oct 24 2011, 04:42 PM
underthetire   Personally, I like the world traffic idea. And rea...   Oct 24 2011, 04:47 PM
eric9144   My morbid curiosity has me wondering what event or...   Oct 24 2011, 04:52 PM
tod914   the HPH ad for taillights is not a good example. ...   Oct 24 2011, 05:16 PM
Elliot Cannon   When a newbie logs on and says he just bought his ...   Oct 24 2011, 05:19 PM
JmuRiz   Used parts market is whatever the price sells for....   Oct 24 2011, 05:21 PM
rdauenhauer   Hmmmm I kinda feel like Jamie, thats a can o' ...   Oct 24 2011, 05:43 PM
carr914   There was an Ad recently in our Classifieds for Pa...   Oct 24 2011, 05:45 PM
Vacca Rabite   I don't know. I kinda think people should cha...   Oct 24 2011, 05:50 PM
rdauenhauer   There was an Ad recently in our Classifieds for P...   Oct 24 2011, 05:51 PM
jaxdream   There was an Ad recently in our Classifieds for ...   Oct 25 2011, 08:38 AM
jaxdream   :popcorn: Jack   Oct 24 2011, 05:54 PM
SLITS   When an item is priced beyond what I think it is w...   Oct 24 2011, 05:57 PM
reharvey   I,ve sold some parts dirt cheap to help someone ou...   Oct 24 2011, 06:02 PM
kg6dxn   I would buy parts from anybody that posted in this...   Oct 24 2011, 06:09 PM
Twise   I have not sold any old parts - I give them to wor...   Oct 24 2011, 06:13 PM
mepstein   I know its all about supply and demand and what s...   Oct 24 2011, 06:46 PM
kg6dxn   I know its all about supply and demand and what ...   Oct 24 2011, 07:06 PM
rick 918-S   [quote name='mepstein' post='1560662' date='Oct 2...   Oct 24 2011, 07:39 PM
76-914   Babtism by fire, baby. I got mine when I first sta...   Oct 24 2011, 06:47 PM
aircooledtechguy   Just like cars, parts are worth only what someone ...   Oct 24 2011, 06:49 PM
somd914   Ah,the land of capitalism, we all love the concept...   Oct 24 2011, 07:12 PM
Prospectfarms   Ah,the land of capitalism, we all love the concep...   Oct 24 2011, 07:52 PM
somd914   Ah,the land of capitalism, we all love the conce...   Oct 24 2011, 09:00 PM
Prospectfarms   [quote name='Prospectfarms' post='1560710' date='...   Oct 24 2011, 11:09 PM
somd914   Ok, so you didn't get it the first time.......   Oct 25 2011, 03:59 AM
Brett W   I will happily chair the Committee for Fairness in...   Oct 24 2011, 07:47 PM
ptravnic   I feel dumber after reading read this thread.   Oct 24 2011, 07:54 PM
shuie   Greed? Really? Is anyone making any real money sel...   Oct 24 2011, 07:58 PM
Vacca Rabite   The thing about pricing guidelines in fluid market...   Oct 24 2011, 08:03 PM
Prospectfarms   The thing about pricing guidelines in fluid marke...   Oct 24 2011, 08:09 PM
J P Stein   I know a fella down in Oregon who is on Porsche...   Oct 24 2011, 08:36 PM
9146986   I have a lot of respect for Jeff B., but this trul...   Oct 24 2011, 09:15 PM
Krieger   Yeah, the collective should set prices on all used...   Oct 24 2011, 09:33 PM
kg6dxn   Yeah, the collective should set prices on all use...   Oct 24 2011, 09:42 PM
Krieger   Now your talkin' comrade Mike! All that d...   Oct 24 2011, 09:50 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Whoooooaaaaa nellie.... It looks like my original...   Oct 24 2011, 10:23 PM
John Jentz   Whoooooaaaaa nellie.... It looks like my origina...   Oct 25 2011, 08:44 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Actually my NOS pricing guide is as current and as...   Oct 26 2011, 09:42 AM
aircooledtechguy   I merely floated the idea of a price guideline, t...   Oct 26 2011, 08:34 AM
hwgunner   Well, what I think is you might get into a problem...   Oct 24 2011, 10:31 PM
drive-ability   :confused: Some times its just :confused: My i...   Oct 25 2011, 12:57 AM
J P Stein   To try to track sales of parts and publish a d...   Oct 25 2011, 07:54 AM
Loser_Cruiser   [size=5][b]I think we could start by not delet...   Oct 25 2011, 08:42 AM
rick 918-S   Man this thing went sideways. :screwy: Now were k...   Oct 25 2011, 01:05 PM
hwgunner   Man this thing went sideways. :screwy: Now were ...   Oct 25 2011, 01:51 PM
kg6dxn   I think this thread is out of control, way off top...   Oct 25 2011, 01:08 PM
hwgunner   I think this thread is out of control, way off to...   Oct 25 2011, 01:51 PM
Spoke   Our world is one of a free market. One can charge...   Oct 25 2011, 02:13 PM
championgt1   Our world is one of a free market. One can charg...   Oct 25 2011, 10:03 PM
kwales   Dang! So how much did I lose on a pair of NOS...   Oct 25 2011, 05:34 PM
A&PGirl   How is this any different to NADA? Of course, ...   Oct 25 2011, 06:39 PM
mikea100   :popcorn:   Oct 25 2011, 09:12 PM
pete000   70 grand for a 914 !!! WOW ! http...   Oct 26 2011, 12:01 AM
BK911   Do you think that part is too expensive? Don’t ...   Oct 26 2011, 07:51 AM


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