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> D-jet guys, never before encountered problem
TheCabinetmaker
post Oct 26 2011, 07:12 AM
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Just reinstalled my new engine before musr12. Its a 2056 with Raby 9550 cam and djet. I reinstalled the original FI system complete. Components were bench tested before being reinstalled. Car runs beyond my expections.

Heres the only problem I have really have. Upon cold start (not cold-cold start) it idles very low and rough. A few minutes of throttle held to about 1400 rpms, and the aar kicks in and everything is normal from there. Or, if I start it and pull it out of the garage to the drive, everything is normal. Aar is working properly. Head temp sensor is the correct one and ohms are within specs both hot and cold. Ts-1 also shows 310 ohms at 60 degrees. Cold start valve is not hooked up. I have considered a leaky injector, but is seems that would cause problems only when there is adquate fuel pressure, not after setting all night. Ambient temp seems to make no difference.

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post Oct 26 2011, 10:31 AM
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MPS needs to be set under load...even with an O2 sensor.
Its a guess otherwise...and you would be shocked at how small of a turn makes such a huge difference.

I drive them while tuning...I dont have a bench setup, I use an A/F meter, O2 sensor and seat time.
It takes about 20-30 minutes to get it perfect.
Start cold...then as you drive you need to keep tuning.
After that, I start one more time the next morning to verify the "new" cold setting still works.

If you are all ok with how it runs everywhere else, put in a varialbe POT on the ambient air sensor and re-connect your cold start injector.
Turn the POT up till the injector flows when you have your specific problem....that might help.
From there you can measure the POT to see what value of resistor you need to trick it.

OR, use a VW 411 mps and your problems will go away.
Its a single diaphram and much easier to get right all across the range.

For me, I start it and get in and drive it to the store...any temps.
When I get there, it idles perfectly...a 10 minute drive.
Air cooled cars properly tuned for running temps tends to run like crap when cold...

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vsg914   D-jet guys   Oct 26 2011, 07:12 AM
rmital   D-Jetronic Idle Stability (from Brad's site) ...   Oct 26 2011, 07:29 AM
vsg914   Thanks Ray, but that isn't the symptom . This ...   Oct 26 2011, 07:34 AM
rmital   Thanks Ray, but that isn't the symptom . This...   Oct 26 2011, 07:36 AM
vsg914   No prob, Ray. Cold-cold start refers to temps unde...   Oct 26 2011, 07:42 AM
tradisrad   you say when the AAR valve kicks in; do you mean w...   Oct 26 2011, 08:00 AM
914_teener   you say when the AAR valve kicks in; do you mean ...   Oct 26 2011, 08:10 AM
vsg914   you say when the AAR valve kicks in; do you mean...   Oct 26 2011, 08:31 AM
vsg914   AAR works as designed. It opens fully cold and clo...   Oct 26 2011, 08:05 AM
Thomas J Bliznik   D-Jet Guys, I had the same problem with my Raby #...   Oct 26 2011, 08:28 AM
sfrenck   D-Jet Guys, I had the same problem with my Raby ...   Oct 26 2011, 08:54 AM
vsg914   D-Jet Guys, I had the same problem with my Raby...   Oct 26 2011, 09:16 AM
r_towle   most likely too rich at idle. Turn down the knob o...   Oct 26 2011, 10:07 AM
vsg914   Rich, running rich is my thought too. Yes an o2 se...   Oct 26 2011, 10:19 AM
r_towle   MPS needs to be set under load...even with an O2 s...   Oct 26 2011, 10:31 AM
Tom_T   Not sure of the cause nor cure Curt, but you'l...   Oct 28 2011, 09:13 PM
PancakePorsche   My stock engine does the exact same thing. My AAR ...   Oct 29 2011, 02:27 AM
Bleyseng   Its too rich at startup due to the 9550 cam. 1100 ...   Oct 29 2011, 04:07 PM


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