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> V8 and liquid cooled guys..., Want to install a heater??? Here's mine
Mike Bellis
post Mar 23 2010, 10:32 PM
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It gets cold here in Northern California often in the moorning. So I decided to build a liquid heater. First, I spent some time measuring the inside of the fresh air box. I figured I could fit a core 11x6 maximum. my son and I spent several hours at the local Pick and Pull junk yard. I settled on a Transmission cooler from a late model Ford Truck. Cooler measures 10x6.

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I quick placement and I realize I need to cut! The water dam for the fan must be cut down. Make sure not to cut all of it so that it will still keep some water off the motor.

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The finish cut to the dam. Ready for the lid? Not yet.

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Bruce Hinds
post Nov 15 2011, 10:11 PM
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Even running the heat on high with the exchanger in the fresh air box while living in Colorado I never had a problem with the system holding up to the heat.

I used a simple "T" in each of the lines running under the car to the radiator the heater core, one in, one out. I also used a high flow thermostat. It has openings around the plunger that always allows some flow.

It is always easier for the car to draw water through both the radiator and the heat exchanger than it is to just draw through the radiator. Heat and defrost is always available through the dash controls.
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post Nov 16 2011, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(Bruce Hinds @ Nov 15 2011, 08:11 PM) *

Even running the heat on high with the exchanger in the fresh air box while living in Colorado I never had a problem with the system holding up to the heat.
Heat and defrost is always available through the dash controls.


Bruce,
Just how hot and fast do you get heat?
Maybe compared to an air cooled 914.
I would think with one fan you have much less flow.
I am convinced there is no meltdown problem in your system.
What can't determine is how hot and fast this system would work with my WRX.
I was working on the front of my car the other day, with it running, and it seemed like 5 min before the fans turned on. Seems it takes a lot of time to heat coolant where I think the manifold would go over 300 deg very fast.

Brett,
This blower is like the ones in some westy vans. Thinking if it will heat a van...
I looked at a lot of mimi van heating systems. I saw one in maybe a Astro or Aerostar van that looked like the complete unit would fit under the passenger foot bolster. It also had a very small heat exchanger. Personally I don't want any more in the passenger compartment.
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"Ruby"
Just how hot and fast do you get heat? Maybe compared to an air cooled 914.
Part of the problem with the teener heat is that the blower in the engine bay has to run the warm air all they way from the back through the cold longs and by the time it gets to the distrubition boxes it's really not too warm. I'm not sure about your subie, but most water cooled engines take a hose off the manifold before the thermostat so it will have constant flow and not have to wait for the "stat" to open.

I would think with one fan you have much less flow.
With the heat exchanger right at in the airbox, you might have less flow, I don't remember how the heat controls boxes worked with head coming from the back, I have those capped, now the heat only travels a very short distance before coming out the defroster vents or under the dash.

I am convened there is no meltdown problem in your system.
What can't determine is how hot and fast this system would work with my WRX.
I was working on the front of my car the other day, with it running, and it seemed like 5 min before the fans turned on. Seems it takes a lot of time to heat coolant where I think the manifold would go over 300 deg very fast.
As I mentioned above,I'm not familiar with the WRX but on most of the water cooled engine heating systems water is available before it gets to the thermostat. The Chevy has a water cooled intake system and there is a place there that a water line will go to the heating system allowing water to flow regardless of whether the thermostat is open or not. This allows heat pretty quickly. I happen to have a thermostat the has by holes around the thermostat plunger that allows a constant flow which seems to help with the cooling with the long run hoses also. I hope all this helps.
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kg6dxn   V8 and liquid cooled guys...   Mar 23 2010, 10:32 PM
kg6dxn   So now the core fits on the fan base. The top m...   Mar 23 2010, 10:38 PM
kg6dxn   In the car! Just need to plumb hoses to the re...   Mar 23 2010, 10:42 PM
ldscamaross   i was recently looking at doing something very sim...   Mar 23 2010, 11:55 PM
computers4kids   Mike, Thanks for sharing. Since I'm a DYI kin...   Mar 24 2010, 08:06 AM
Bruce Hinds   I did the same thing a few years back while we liv...   Mar 24 2010, 09:52 AM
burton73   Mike, I had to replace my vent box in my V8 car ...   Mar 24 2010, 02:12 PM
76er   Bruce I would be interested in seeing some pics. K...   Mar 24 2010, 02:30 PM
JJ914GT   I was looking for a forumpost like this a while ag...   Mar 24 2010, 04:02 PM
Dr Evil   Just to add in some data, when I had an 86 Ford Br...   Mar 24 2010, 05:06 PM
Dr Evil   Here is a link at NAPA: http://www.napaonline.com/...   Mar 24 2010, 05:11 PM
76er   Here is a link at NAPA: http://www.napaonline.com...   Mar 25 2010, 06:13 PM
kg6dxn   The core I used has 3/8 NPT fittings and I'm u...   Mar 24 2010, 05:59 PM
Andyrew   thats exactly what I was going to do about 5 years...   Mar 24 2010, 07:09 PM
Cheapsnake   Nice work. I just wish I had seen this (thought a...   Mar 26 2010, 07:08 AM
andys   Mike, Can you be more specific on the year/applic...   Mar 26 2010, 09:38 AM
kg6dxn   Mike, Can you be more specific on the year/appli...   Mar 26 2010, 04:23 PM
computers4kids   Mike, How does this NAPA part compare to the Ford ...   Mar 26 2010, 09:57 AM
kg6dxn   Mike, How does this NAPA part compare to the Ford...   Mar 26 2010, 04:35 PM
strawman   I think this one is too thick. You would need to...   Mar 26 2010, 10:32 PM
kg6dxn   I think this one is too thick. You would need t...   Mar 26 2010, 11:11 PM
strawman   My radiator runs super cool, too cool. And... I d...   Mar 26 2010, 11:56 PM
marks914   Yup, we made about 30 of these over the past few y...   Mar 27 2010, 06:43 AM
okieflyr   Yup, we made about 30 of these over the past few ...   Oct 16 2011, 06:24 PM
partwerks   Yup, we made about 30 of these over the past few ...   Oct 25 2020, 09:51 PM
Bruce Hinds   Ford core is the way to go.... I just don't th...   Mar 27 2010, 09:15 AM
computers4kids   Mike, I understand your logic with wanting to run ...   Mar 27 2010, 09:37 AM
kg6dxn   Mike, I understand your logic with wanting to run...   Mar 27 2010, 09:53 AM
dflesburg   http://www.amazon.com/Koolatron-12v-Auto-H...r/dp/...   Oct 3 2011, 12:03 PM
matthepcat   I found this heating system much easier to install...   Oct 3 2011, 12:18 PM
Ductech   kq6dxn You must think a lot like myself cause this...   Oct 3 2011, 12:40 PM
kg6dxn   Junk yard. Ford F150   Oct 3 2011, 12:57 PM
JRust   I don't have pics at the moment. My previous R...   Oct 3 2011, 01:19 PM
andys   If you have an inkling to run an under dash AC uni...   Oct 3 2011, 01:56 PM
kg6dxn   Jaime, Your setup is awesome but bulky. I could no...   Oct 3 2011, 05:06 PM
ruby914   I missed this discussion last year when I was look...   Oct 16 2011, 06:01 PM
ruby914   Here is the system I have now and I am ready to pu...   Oct 16 2011, 06:52 PM
BajaXJ92   Here is the system I have now and I am ready to p...   Oct 16 2011, 09:08 PM
ruby914   Here is the system I have now and I am ready to ...   Oct 16 2011, 09:39 PM
kg6dxn   :popcorn:   Oct 16 2011, 08:02 PM
ruby914   I am blindly moving forward with this. I picked u...   Nov 15 2011, 02:43 PM
ruby914   In order to get fast heat, I keep going back to th...   Nov 15 2011, 02:51 PM
BajaXJ92   In order to get fast heat, I keep going back to t...   Nov 15 2011, 02:52 PM
Bruce Hinds   Even running the heat on high with the exchanger i...   Nov 15 2011, 10:11 PM
ruby914   Even running the heat on high with the exchanger...   Nov 16 2011, 11:42 AM
Bruce Hinds   "Ruby" Just how hot and fast do you get ...   Nov 16 2011, 12:50 PM
Brett W   Why not find a way to retrofit the heater box and ...   Nov 16 2011, 09:07 AM
andys   Why not find a way to retrofit the heater box and...   Nov 16 2011, 11:14 AM
ruby914   Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing the heat ...   Nov 19 2011, 01:46 PM
Bruce Hinds   Wish I could start my car to give you some reading...   Nov 19 2011, 02:00 PM
ruby914   Anyone else have a, running, heated, conversion a...   Nov 19 2011, 08:45 PM
kg6dxn   Anyone else have a, running, heated, conversion ...   Nov 19 2011, 08:51 PM
kg6dxn   :bump: For Chris N P   Jan 17 2013, 01:46 PM


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