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> Timing Question, Got the dizzy out - crisis averted
bigkensteele
post Nov 15 2011, 09:11 PM
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Question: I can only see the timing mark on the impeller when the rotor is in the 2 and 4 position. When I had the engine on a stand, I could see it at 1. What gives?

Lead-up story: As some of you may have read, I finally got my car running on Sunday after a total reseal project. It is a 1.8 with L jet, and I installed a pertronix while the motor was out. I also replaced the dizzy O ring, but I never loosened the timing plate.

I was able to get it started on Sunday, and it ran pretty rough for a while and finally warmed up to a point where it was running OK at best.

Knowing that the timing was only in the ballpark, last night, I had the brilliant idea of loosening the plate and do a little tweaking. I went a bit to far and it died. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) So I moved it back to the approximate starting position, and it would not start.

That is when I decided to do it the right way, but I now my timing mark doesn't show when the rotor is on 1. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
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post Nov 16 2011, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Nov 16 2011, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(Valy @ Nov 16 2011, 08:52 AM) *

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Nov 16 2011, 04:49 AM) *

Btw, your timing will not change when the engine warms up.

That's correct but, the engine speed changes when it warms-up. Since the timing is checked at certain RPM, it should be checked on a warm engine, especially at idle.


Haha. Only the idle speed changes. 3200 rmp is 3200 rpm. hot or cold. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I will time it cold to get it running well and then again when it warms up.

I got the dizzy out, by the way. The plate was hanging up on the tin, but it felt like the drive was hanging up in the shaft. I was very much relieved to see no brass shavings and the drive was indexed right where it is supposed to be. Now, I just need to pop the valve cover to make sure it is tdc for 1, rather than 2. Is there a better way to tell that doesn't involve spilling oil all over my heat exchanger?



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QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Nov 16 2011, 10:48 AM) *
Is there a better way to tell that doesn't involve spilling oil all over my heat exchanger?

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post Nov 17 2011, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Nov 16 2011, 12:36 PM) *

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Nov 16 2011, 12:48 PM) *

QUOTE(Valy @ Nov 16 2011, 08:52 AM) *

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Nov 16 2011, 04:49 AM) *

Btw, your timing will not change when the engine warms up.

That's correct but, the engine speed changes when it warms-up. Since the timing is checked at certain RPM, it should be checked on a warm engine, especially at idle.


Haha. Only the idle speed changes. 3200 rmp is 3200 rpm. hot or cold. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I will time it cold to get it running well and then again when it warms up.

I got the dizzy out, by the way. The plate was hanging up on the tin, but it felt like the drive was hanging up in the shaft. I was very much relieved to see no brass shavings and the drive was indexed right where it is supposed to be. Now, I just need to pop the valve cover to make sure it is tdc for 1, rather than 2. Is there a better way to tell that doesn't involve spilling oil all over my heat exchanger?



QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 16 2011, 01:17 PM) *

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Nov 16 2011, 10:48 AM) *
Is there a better way to tell that doesn't involve spilling oil all over my heat exchanger?

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bigkensteele   Timing Question   Nov 15 2011, 09:11 PM
underthetire   When you loosened the clamp, the dizzy probably po...   Nov 15 2011, 09:27 PM
bigkensteele   When you loosened the clamp, the dizzy probably p...   Nov 15 2011, 09:38 PM
underthetire   When you loosened the clamp, the dizzy probably ...   Nov 15 2011, 10:06 PM
Woody   Did the gear turn when you pulled the dizzy? Yes ...   Nov 15 2011, 09:34 PM
PancakePorsche   Hopefully you did not turn over engine (even by ha...   Nov 15 2011, 10:13 PM
Gint   :agree: If there is no downward pressure on the...   Nov 15 2011, 10:15 PM
bigkensteele   :agree: If there is no downward pressure on th...   Nov 15 2011, 10:50 PM
vsg914   :agree: If there is no downward pressure on t...   Nov 16 2011, 06:49 AM
Valy   Btw, your timing will not change when the engine ...   Nov 16 2011, 10:52 AM
bigkensteele   Btw, your timing will not change when the engine...   Nov 16 2011, 12:48 PM
SirAndy   Is there a better way to tell that doesn't inv...   Nov 16 2011, 01:17 PM
bigkensteele   Is there a better way to tell that doesn't in...   Nov 16 2011, 01:27 PM
SirAndy   [quote name='SirAndy' post='1572857' date='Nov 16 ...   Nov 16 2011, 01:33 PM
bigkensteele   [quote name='SirAndy' post='1572857' date='Nov 16...   Nov 16 2011, 02:29 PM
Valy   Calm down, its just the dizzy alignment. It may be...   Nov 16 2011, 03:25 AM
914rat   I just went over this same thing 2 weeks ago.Put a...   Nov 16 2011, 01:43 PM
vsg914   [quote name='vsg914' post='1572695' date='Nov 16...   Nov 16 2011, 02:36 PM
SirAndy   What ever happened to him? Last Active 5th Decem...   Nov 16 2011, 02:41 PM
Drums66   [quote name='bigkensteele' post='1572836' date='N...   Nov 17 2011, 06:34 PM
Valy   Haha. Only the idle speed changes. 3200 rmp is 3...   Nov 17 2011, 08:42 PM
bigkensteele   Now that I am looking at member numbers, have you ...   Nov 16 2011, 02:42 PM
vsg914   Now that I am looking at member numbers, have you...   Nov 16 2011, 02:46 PM
Drums66   :thumbsup: :bravo3d: (Valy)   Nov 18 2011, 04:49 PM


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