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| malcolm2 |
Nov 28 2011, 12:42 PM
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I am to the point on my rebuild that I need to make a decision. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
I am sure that this type of discussion can become very technical and fill volumes of books. I am not asking for that. I am the kind of person that wants to know "why" a certain cam needs a certain CR. In order to make the best decision, I need answers. Or if it is a huge secret, that is fine too. I can go blindly along with the crowd. Maybe it's really what. Has anyone experienced What an engine will do, or what will I see or feel if my cam mfg recommends 8.0:1 CR and my normal state (no shims) is 8.35:1 CR? To get to just about 8, I have calculated that I need about 2mm of deck height. I am currently sitting at 1.62mm average DH with a variance between cylinders of 0.15mm. So I need two 0.4mm shims and two 0.5mm shims and I will be dead nuts on 8:1. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) So the mfgr's value can be reached (if I can round up the shims), but I am curious to know how differently the engine will function if I go shim-less or even only get half way, maybe 8.2:1. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) |
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| mark21742 |
Nov 28 2011, 01:08 PM
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Most cam manufacturers give you minimum compression ratio recomendations....if you go higher your engine will be a tad peppier....for every full point of compression (going from 10:1 to 11:1) you can expect a 3-4% gain in torque and HP acrossed the rpm range.
With longer duration cans you need higher static compression to get the same dynamic compression you would get from a shorter duration cam because, or the longer duration cam the intake valve stays opened longer after bottom dead center, and you don't start to build compression till the intake valve closes... For instance my 408 in my 04 GTO had a static compression of 12.49:1, but since the intake valve doesn't close till 85 degrees after bottom dead center it comes out to only 8.22:1 dynamic compression. Hope this helped a little |
malcolm2 Hitting the exact Compression Ratio Nov 28 2011, 12:42 PM
McMark Don't mix different height shims on the same s... Nov 28 2011, 12:52 PM
malcolm2
Don't mix different height shims on the same ... Nov 28 2011, 02:46 PM
r_towle Compression ratio and camshaft selection go hand i... Nov 28 2011, 01:17 PM
malcolm2
Compression ratio and camshaft selection go hand ... Nov 28 2011, 02:43 PM
Marty Yeoman
You have other options if you do not want to shi... Nov 28 2011, 02:51 PM
malcolm2
You have other options if you do not want to sh... Nov 28 2011, 03:01 PM
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r_towle more deck height is either more shims or deeper ch... Nov 28 2011, 03:07 PM
malcolm2
more deck height is either more shims or deeper c... Nov 28 2011, 03:14 PM
r_towle if you had the case "checked over" they ... Nov 28 2011, 03:21 PM
Jake Raby It is common to achieve different true deck height... Nov 28 2011, 03:26 PM
malcolm2
It is common to achieve different true deck heigh... Nov 28 2011, 03:49 PM
Jake Raby
I am trying really hard to lessen that expectati... Nov 28 2011, 04:13 PM
malcolm2
I am trying really hard to lessen that expectat... Nov 28 2011, 07:28 PM![]() ![]() |
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