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> Acetylene bottle in an SUV, All welders need to read this
URY914
post Dec 3 2011, 01:29 PM
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This is reposted from another forum.....

Quote "So my time almost came to an end this morning... im very lucky to be alive.

First of all, GO HUG YOUR WIFE/HUBBY and tell them you love them.

i had an acetylene bottle in my truck, the valve was bumped so slightly and over night the truck filled with the gas. i noticed the smell, and opened the doors to air out the truck. i drove the truck out of the garage to get some more air movement. i went to roll the pass side window down and as soon as i touched the power windows. BAM. with me in the truck. i lost all hearing out of my right ear and got a scratch on the back of my head. all things considering, im alive.

so now ive got the question out to toyota about a 2012 TT. 125 to canada only, 15 in standard. i want a standard...

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scotty b
post Dec 4 2011, 07:44 PM
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you guys seem to be focusing on the soot when ignited. My point is look at the internal parts of the truck. Not in a soot marked way, but in the assumption that there was an exlposion creating a fireball, and NOTHING got melted or burned ??? This would lead me to believe there was no " ignition " it was a concussion " explosion" so what would have cause the gas trapped in the truck to have expanded so rapidly yet not ignite ?
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Dec 4 2011, 08:44 PM) *

you guys seem to be focusing on the soot when ignited. My point is look at the internal parts of the truck. Not in a soot marked way, but in the assumption that there was an exlposion creating a fireball, and NOTHING got melted or burned ??? This would lead me to believe there was no " ignition " it was a concussion " explosion" so what would have cause the gas trapped in the truck to have expanded so rapidly yet not ignite ?

There was a recent Mythbusters episode where they looked at "flying manhole covers" due to sewer explosions. They showed that you had to get the optimal mixture of air to methane to get a real explosion. They also showed how various factors could impact if it was a burn or an explosion. In a burn, the flamewall boundary doesn't move at a very high speed. For example it might be moving slower than the shock wave.

Here is the video for the small scale test in which you can see how the flamewall boundary moves, but not as fast as the shockwave (which blows the covers off before the flame gets there. The video stops before they show it, but they showed that oddly enough, when they added obstructions it actually increased the speed of the flamewall.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DokeJj0pxPw


Based upon how the body panels are pealed off, and how they showed that obstructions helped speed up the flamewall boundry I am thinking that he had a detonation (or at a minimum a very fast burn) within the interior cavities of the car. And that unfortunately he must have had a relatively optimal air/fuel mixture.

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URY914   Acetylene bottle in an SUV   Dec 3 2011, 01:29 PM
URY914   And the pictures..........   Dec 3 2011, 01:30 PM
URY914   RE: Acetylene bottle in an SUV   Dec 3 2011, 01:31 PM
URY914   RE: Acetylene bottle in an SUV   Dec 3 2011, 01:32 PM
underthetire   Our local weld shop would not sell any bottle, eve...   Dec 3 2011, 01:42 PM
JMKnight   Our local weld shop would not sell any bottle, ev...   Dec 4 2011, 09:36 AM
Bruce Hinds   They do walk amoung us.....   Dec 3 2011, 01:44 PM
charliew   Glad he is are as well as he is. I go to airgas re...   Dec 3 2011, 01:48 PM
Mark Henry   This is why I poo-poo the idea of the propex propa...   Dec 3 2011, 01:52 PM
Andyrew   Damn. Glad I dont use acetylene torches..   Dec 3 2011, 02:04 PM
Mark Henry   I'm amazed at how it peeled all the outer skin...   Dec 3 2011, 02:18 PM
URY914   I'm amazed at how it peeled all the outer ski...   Dec 3 2011, 03:09 PM
02loftsmoor   you didn't have the steel cap on. If the cap w...   Dec 3 2011, 02:23 PM
JMKnight   you didn't have the steel cap on. If the cap ...   Dec 4 2011, 08:44 AM
Cap'n Krusty   IME, the welding supply stores won't even sell...   Dec 3 2011, 02:58 PM
aircooledtechguy   IME, the welding supply stores won't even sel...   Dec 3 2011, 03:18 PM
02loftsmoor   the most likely is a little bit air tight, the com...   Dec 3 2011, 03:22 PM
rick 918-S   The question I have about this is where is the the...   Dec 3 2011, 03:36 PM
scotty b   :agree: on the cap. no welding shop would fill a ...   Dec 3 2011, 03:53 PM
phatnine11   You had an Angel on your back! When I took my ...   Dec 3 2011, 03:55 PM
scotty b   I'd alo like to know how one could be on the i...   Dec 3 2011, 03:56 PM
Dr Evil   I call :bullshit: Scott and Rick said why.   Dec 3 2011, 05:50 PM
Dr Evil   Is acetylene not odorized? I forget. LPG and LNG a...   Dec 3 2011, 05:52 PM
scotty b   Is acetylene not odorized? I forget. LPG and LNG ...   Dec 3 2011, 06:00 PM
SCV   Is acetylene not odorized? I forget. LPG and LNG ...   Dec 3 2011, 10:41 PM
URY914   I'd think that he would be in worse shape also...   Dec 3 2011, 05:59 PM
scotty b   notuce how the panels peeled. Back and to the righ...   Dec 3 2011, 06:03 PM
Bruce Hinds   Since he said he let it air out before he hit the ...   Dec 3 2011, 07:30 PM
partwerks   Ok, what did we learn from this? You got a lot t...   Dec 3 2011, 07:58 PM
zambezi   My guess is that since the drivers door is fairly ...   Dec 3 2011, 07:59 PM
Lou W   My guess is that since the drivers door is fairly...   Dec 3 2011, 10:02 PM
76-914   I don't know of any protective cap for an acet...   Dec 3 2011, 08:41 PM
Millerwelds   I don't know of any protective cap for an ace...   Dec 4 2011, 09:25 AM
sixnotfour   http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topi...all-c...   Dec 3 2011, 09:07 PM
dlestep   as a past Divemaster, and dealing with pressurized...   Dec 3 2011, 10:28 PM
bigkensteele   Does it make sense that the airbags deployed? I a...   Dec 3 2011, 10:55 PM
jcd914   FJ BOOM!   Dec 4 2011, 12:30 AM
sean_v8_914   natural selection has failed again. most avoid it ...   Dec 4 2011, 02:20 AM
Brodie   We work with Acetylene every day, and I know that ...   Dec 4 2011, 08:03 AM
URY914   Someone on another forum said that if he opened th...   Dec 4 2011, 08:13 AM
zambezi   If the door was open there would have been plenty ...   Dec 4 2011, 09:01 AM
ellisor3   I would think the shock wave alone would have done...   Dec 4 2011, 09:28 AM
Dr Evil   After looking at the pics it is obvious that a rap...   Dec 4 2011, 09:31 AM
Cap'n Krusty   If a little oxygen allows clean burning, why is th...   Dec 4 2011, 10:08 AM
zambezi   If a little oxygen allows clean burning, why is t...   Dec 4 2011, 10:18 AM
Racer Chris   I agree with the theory that the concentration was...   Dec 4 2011, 10:19 AM
SLITS   All I had was an ether (quick start) can blow up o...   Dec 4 2011, 11:01 AM
76-914   All I had was an ether (quick start) can blow up ...   Dec 4 2011, 05:53 PM
Dr Evil   All I had was an ether (quick start) can blow up ...   Dec 4 2011, 06:22 PM
scotty b   you guys seem to be focusing on the soot when igni...   Dec 4 2011, 07:44 PM
Richard Casto   you guys seem to be focusing on the soot when ign...   Dec 5 2011, 11:25 AM
Mark Henry   Based upon how the body panels are pealed off, ...   Dec 5 2011, 02:11 PM
Richard Casto   Quick someone call Mythbusters! ;) I think i...   Dec 5 2011, 10:46 AM
9146986   :bullshit: I don't believe it. There's no...   Dec 5 2011, 12:25 PM
Vacca Rabite   :bullshit: I don't believe it. There's n...   Dec 5 2011, 01:31 PM


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