OT: Saab filed for bankruptcy, Sign of the times. Options

[Mark Henry]

Swedish carmaker's Chinese investors fail to take over former GM company.
Too bad, nice car at one time (Saab 99), but they couldn't compete.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12...bankruptcy.html

[rick 918-S]

That's ok, you as an employee can loose as much money for the company as you want with poor productivity and drunken drug infested lunches under your protective union umbrella. All of us tax payers that took responsability for ourselves will fluff your pillow for you.

If GM was left to fix their own problems as the law provides they would have reorganized as may companies do. If you want to live in a comunist country move to one. There is no garrentee of success here only opportunity. It's up to all of us to handle our affairs. Sometimes we fail. Sometimes were not competitive anymore. That's business. Why do you look at it as someone owes someone something here beyond the laws and constitution?

As I stated I'm a heartless SOB but I owned a couple businesses. I had several employees. I personally suffered along with my business from the economic drought, market shifts and employee productivity issues. It's alot different looking at it from the business side of the check book. You guy's that have your hand in your employers wallet every week need to go out and take a risk and try it on your own. Then you can tell me all about bail outs and personal responsability.

I will likely get a time out for this post. But the guys at Saab know what I'm talking about.

[Elliot Cannon]

That's ok, you as an employee can loose as much money for the company as you want with poor productivity and drunken drug infested lunches under your protective union umbrella. All of us tax payers that took responsability for ourselves will fluff your pillow for you.

If GM was left to fix their own problems as the law provides they would have reorganized as may companies do. If you want to live in a comunist country move to one. There is no garrentee of success here only opportunity. It's up to all of us to handle our affairs. Sometimes we fail. Sometimes were not competitive anymore. That's business. Why do you look at it as someone owes someone something here beyond the laws and constitution?

As I stated I'm a heartless SOB but I owned a couple businesses. I had several employees. I personally suffered along with my business from the economic drought, market shifts and employee productivity issues. It's alot different looking at it from the business side of the check book. You guy's that have your hand in your employers wallet every week need to go out and take a risk and try it on your own. Then you can tell me all about bail outs and personal responsability.

I will likely get a time out for this post. But the guys at Saab know what I'm talking about.

When you say "you as an employee can lose as much money for the company as you want." What does that mean? I've been with one union or another all my life and proud of it. I worked my ass off for everyone I worked. "Drunken drug infested lunches"? Do you even have a clue what you're talking about? Unions are so bad? The huge middle class in this country didn't happen on it's own. Where do you think the 40 hour work week came from? Where do you think child labor laws etc. came from? Collective bargaining. That's where. If your business failed, how many thousands of people lost their jobs? Are you comparing your business with GM? Did you set out to be a job creator or a profit creator? Since this is leaning toward the politcal, you can have the last word 'cause statements like "drug infested lunches" aren't even worth discussing.