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| Mark Henry |
 Dec 19 2011, 11:47 AM
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that's what I do!  Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada  |
Swedish carmaker's Chinese investors fail to take over former GM company. Too bad, nice car at one time (Saab 99), but they couldn't compete. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12...bankruptcy.html |
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| rick 918-S |
Dec 21 2011, 07:12 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 21,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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I'm not sayin all union workers are slackers but I worked as a welder for a union ship builder and saw it first hand. I don't say things I can't back up.
http://lmliberty.us/2011/11/30/union-worke.../#axzz1hDiUUUww http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKrIhn9RgP8...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujPLK-CkphM...feature=related On you dime. Like that? You and me bailed out these guys. We pay their salery, contribute to their unions and big fat pensions. These are the guys we bailed out. I feel real bad for them now that they showed me how much they appreciated it. When we have real 17% unemployment there are guys that would be happy to stand on a line with sanding mittens on their hands or a power wrench tightening bolts for half what these ingrates make. |
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| Elliot Cannon |
Dec 22 2011, 12:10 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Dec 21 2011, 05:12 PM)  I'm not sayin all union workers are slackers but I worked as a welder for a union ship builder and saw it first hand. I don't say things I can't back up. http://lmliberty.us/2011/11/30/union-worke.../#axzz1hDiUUUww http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKrIhn9RgP8...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujPLK-CkphM...feature=related On you dime. Like that? You and me bailed out these guys. We pay their salery, contribute to their unions and big fat pensions. These are the guys we bailed out. I feel real bad for them now that they showed me how much they appreciated it. When we have real 17% unemployment there are guys that would be happy to stand on a line with sanding mittens on their hands or a power wrench tightening bolts for half what these ingrates make. 17 out of 250 or more employees found drinking on the job? 17? How many DWP workers where caught out of how many total employed? How many of the auto workers where caught out of how many total employed? 10% 20% 30% all of them? Do you know? Does Fox News know? If you're a TV news producer and need to boost your ratings, put a hidden camera outside of any large factory and you just might see the same thing. How about an undercover exposee about the percentage of union workers who don't break the law, do their jobs well, have families and are good citizens and are grateful for the bailout? No ratings there. People only want to see the bad behavior so they have someone to blame. If you own a business and it fails, who should you blame? Your employees? |
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| eric914 |
Dec 22 2011, 09:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 381 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Waynesville OH Member No.: 1,613 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Dec 21 2011, 10:10 PM) QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Dec 21 2011, 05:12 PM) I'm not sayin all union workers are slackers but I worked as a welder for a union ship builder and saw it first hand. I don't say things I can't back up. http://lmliberty.us/2011/11/30/union-worke.../#axzz1hDiUUUww http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKrIhn9RgP8...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujPLK-CkphM...feature=related On you dime. Like that? You and me bailed out these guys. We pay their salery, contribute to their unions and big fat pensions. These are the guys we bailed out. I feel real bad for them now that they showed me how much they appreciated it. When we have real 17% unemployment there are guys that would be happy to stand on a line with sanding mittens on their hands or a power wrench tightening bolts for half what these ingrates make. 17 out of 250 or more employees found drinking on the job? 17? How many DWP workers where caught out of how many total employed? How many of the auto workers where caught out of how many total employed? 10% 20% 30% all of them? Do you know? Does Fox News know? If you're a TV news producer and need to boost your ratings, put a hidden camera outside of any large factory and you just might see the same thing. How about an undercover exposee about the percentage of union workers who don't break the law, do their jobs well, have families and are good citizens and are grateful for the bailout? No ratings there. People only want to see the bad behavior so they have someone to blame. If you own a business and it fails, who should you blame? Your employees? Cant argue with a certain % of any group being bad. The difference between a union and a non union plant is in the non union plant the 17 bad apples would be fired on the spot and escorted off the property. Try that in a union plant. |
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