914 1,7 starter types, were both types used? Options

[larss]

Need to service the original starter, it is the common Bosch 914 one with a short output shaft.
My spare starter is a VW411 one, also a Bosch but with a much loger output shaft
reaching in to the engine case since it has no bearing for the output side which the original has.
I thought the 411 one would just slip in but there seems to be no hole in the engine case for the shaft, still I can see this type be sold as a 914 starter on Ebay.

Were both types used in the 914 and was the hole in the case just made when the long shaft type starter was installed?


/Lars

[larss]

Thanks everyone for your help!

The two starters are pictured below (left is the 914 one and the 411 one is to the right).

I test fitted the 411 one to the 914 gearbox and it slipped in and cranked the engine but some bad noise was heard due to that this starter has no internal bearing on the output shaft. I guess it would wear out quickly since the rotor is in direct contact with and wearing out the stator. It works in the 411 since the 411 gearbox has support for the output shaft which the 914 gearbox hasn't (and therefore the 914 starter has internal support.

However after changing carbons in the 914 one it spins like never before and the problem is solved.


/Lars

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