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> 915 vs 901 vs boxsterS - Opinions needed., pros/cons, difficulty moving to, etc...
naro914
post Jan 11 2012, 12:07 PM
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I'd like some opinions from the general peanut gallery. Is it worth the cost go to a 915 transmission over a 901? What is the benefit, if any? And, what's involved?

How about a Boxster S transmission?

I've heard stories that a 915 is a pain to install, and doesn't every really shift well. I can't comment since I've never driven a 915 in a 914. But, with the bigger engine we now have, is it something I should be considering in the future? Being that I can get a complete 901 for cheap, and already own 3....

I know nothing about the Boxster S trans, other than a 6 speed with cable shifting would be very nice.

thoughts, comments discussion?

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post Jan 14 2012, 11:22 AM
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There is a member here that has installed a 6speed boxster trans and made some type of provision for the starter that looked like it would need to be done better for longevity. The car was red but I can not remember the name. I looked at the 6 speeds and from what I understood they are the 996 trans flipped.
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post Jan 15 2012, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Scott @ Jan 14 2012, 12:22 PM) *

There is a member here that has installed a 6speed boxster trans and made some type of provision for the starter that looked like it would need to be done better for longevity. The car was red but I can not remember the name. I looked at the 6 speeds and from what I understood they are the 996 trans flipped.





I'd like to see that. The starter on the 986/996 is on the engine-side. I think that problem alone makes the mating of that transmission to an air-cooled engine somewhat less than trivial.
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post Jan 20 2012, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Jan 15 2012, 08:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Chris Scott @ Jan 14 2012, 12:22 PM) *

There is a member here that has installed a 6speed boxster trans and made some type of provision for the starter that looked like it would need to be done better for longevity. The car was red but I can not remember the name. I looked at the 6 speeds and from what I understood they are the 996 trans flipped.





I'd like to see that. The starter on the 986/996 is on the engine-side. I think that problem alone makes the mating of that transmission to an air-cooled engine somewhat less than trivial.


Here is a pix from a old thread does not show the starter.

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post Jan 20 2012, 11:27 AM
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Why would anyone go to all that trouble and then use those POS Weltmeister trans mounts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)
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post Jan 20 2012, 12:02 PM
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Why would anyone go to all that trouble and then use those POS Weltmeister trans mounts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)



I am SO not showing you the pics of my audi conversion (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 21 2012, 07:15 AM
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Why would anyone go to all that trouble and then use those POS Weltmeister trans mounts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)



I am SO not showing you the pics of my audi conversion (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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I should expand on my statement.
I used a pair of those solid mounts in my own race car at one time.
They are an appealing product because people think that installing solid transmission mounts is a performance upgrade, and the Weltmeister pieces are relatively inexpensive.

My experienced opinion is that one end of the engine/trans mounting system should remain flexible, even if only to a small degree - at least in all but the stiffest of racing chassis'.
I prefer to mount the engine end solidly and the trans end on stiff rubber such as 911 sport mounts or WEVO mounts.

The Weltmeister pieces don't stay tight in hard usage. The magnesium trans ears will fret on the hard plastic and cause erosion.
As with the majority of components bearing that brand, in usage the actual product leaves much to be desired.
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naro914   915 vs 901 vs boxsterS - Opinions needed.   Jan 11 2012, 12:07 PM
SirAndy   pros/cons Yes. :D   Jan 11 2012, 02:39 PM
pcar916   initial cost for a 915 conversion is simply more ...   Jan 11 2012, 03:10 PM
naro914   Thanks Ron, that is very helpful. I've also a...   Jan 11 2012, 04:19 PM
pcar916   I've also added Boxster S tranny as an option...   Jan 11 2012, 04:30 PM
rohar   Thanks Ron, that is very helpful. I've also ...   Jan 11 2012, 04:53 PM
Richard Casto   Should prove to be an interesting thread. Two oth...   Jan 11 2012, 04:41 PM
mepstein   I'd like some opinions from the general peanu...   Jan 11 2012, 04:51 PM
naro914   what are you trying to accomplish? Will it be wor...   Jan 11 2012, 05:17 PM
mepstein   what are you trying to accomplish? Will it be wo...   Jan 12 2012, 01:14 PM
PeeGreen 914   With everything done right the 901 can handle a gr...   Jan 11 2012, 05:08 PM
PeeGreen 914   The 914 that has won at parade the past few years ...   Jan 11 2012, 05:30 PM
naro914   AX and track racing put very different strains on ...   Jan 11 2012, 05:50 PM
PeeGreen 914   If you look at many of the Patrick Motosports 914s...   Jan 11 2012, 06:15 PM
pcar916   These transaxle threads are really useful to me be...   Jan 11 2012, 06:43 PM
Racing916   I have driven a crap load of track miles on my 901...   Jan 11 2012, 08:29 PM
naro914   I have driven a crap load of track miles on my 90...   Jan 11 2012, 09:27 PM
betegh9   I have driven a crap load of track miles on my 9...   Jan 14 2012, 06:40 PM
rohar   I believe that a Boxter/ Cayman 6 speed transm...   Jan 14 2012, 07:13 PM
brilliantrot   IMO the 915 isn't enough stronger then a 901 t...   Jan 12 2012, 12:08 AM
SirAndy   My only beef with the 901 is that when you approac...   Jan 12 2012, 12:25 PM
Randal   In fact, i have a 915 sitting in my shed that al...   Jan 14 2012, 09:43 AM
SirAndy   In fact, i have a 915 sitting in my shed that alre...   Jan 14 2012, 12:29 PM
naro914   I keep being told by guys I should ditch the old s...   Jan 12 2012, 01:35 PM
zig-n-zag   I'll side with the factory on this one. In 19...   Jan 12 2012, 03:12 PM
Racer Chris   We have a track car at the shop right now with a b...   Jan 13 2012, 08:20 PM
Randal   We have a track car at the shop right now with a ...   Jan 13 2012, 09:03 PM
Racer Chris   So keeping it cool is the trick, hey Chris? I th...   Jan 13 2012, 10:32 PM
RobW   I think the Boxster S is your clear choice. For no...   Jan 14 2012, 04:34 AM
naro914   I think the Boxster S is your clear choice. For n...   Jan 14 2012, 07:31 AM
Cracker   No guinea pig risk...Renegade has developed (just ...   Jan 14 2012, 08:53 AM
rohar   If they've got a conversion for the Boxster S ...   Jan 14 2012, 09:39 AM
rohar   But the deal killer for track guys would be avai...   Jan 14 2012, 09:49 AM
Randal   But the deal killer for track guys would be ava...   Jan 14 2012, 10:41 AM
rohar   But the deal killer for track guys would be ava...   Jan 16 2012, 07:13 PM
naro914   I would go Boxster S...6 speed and stronger   Jan 14 2012, 10:44 AM
campbellcj   I was just thinking the other day how robust the t...   Jan 14 2012, 10:53 AM
rohar   The FWD and AWD trannies from Audi/VW aren't t...   Jan 14 2012, 11:06 AM
Chris Scott   There is a member here that has installed a 6speed...   Jan 14 2012, 11:22 AM
Series9   There is a member here that has installed a 6spee...   Jan 15 2012, 07:58 PM
BIGKAT_83   There is a member here that has installed a 6spe...   Jan 20 2012, 06:56 AM
Racer Chris   Why would anyone go to all that trouble and the...   Jan 20 2012, 11:27 AM
rohar   Why would anyone go to all that trouble and th...   Jan 20 2012, 12:02 PM
Racer Chris   [quote name='Racer Chris' post='1608266' date='Ja...   Jan 21 2012, 07:15 AM
rohar   Is it possible for someone with an engine out to m...   Jan 14 2012, 12:00 PM
rohar   Ok, so I just pulled the motor tranny out from und...   Jan 14 2012, 04:22 PM
rohar   Crap, I almost forgot, you need to throw a hydro c...   Jan 14 2012, 07:15 PM
betegh9   Crap, I almost forgot, you need to throw a hydro ...   Jan 15 2012, 07:41 PM
rohar   Looks like an Audi 016 automatic, but after a bunc...   Jan 15 2012, 08:50 PM
Racing916   Looks like an Audi 016 automatic, but after a bun...   Jan 15 2012, 09:19 PM
rohar   [quote name='rohar' post='1605421' date='Jan 15 2...   Jan 15 2012, 10:09 PM
rohar   dangit, doublepostage.   Jan 15 2012, 10:09 PM
Racing916   You have a modern motor so a more modern gearbox m...   Jan 15 2012, 09:18 PM
rohar   You have a modern motor so a more modern gearbox ...   Jan 15 2012, 10:14 PM
andys   The Audi box I'm running is already very tal...   Jan 16 2012, 04:03 PM
rohar   Mostly a street car, but track days happen :) Thi...   Jan 16 2012, 06:56 PM
campbellcj   I sure hope that anyone planning to do more than 1...   Jan 16 2012, 07:40 PM
naro914   I sure hope that anyone planning to do more than ...   Jan 20 2012, 07:53 AM
rick 918-S   Bob, I'm running a 901 with a billet plate a...   Jan 19 2012, 09:23 AM
naro914   ^^^whos is that? Is that yours Bigkat?   Jan 20 2012, 07:48 AM
J P Stein   I voted long ago to just hang in there with the 90...   Jan 20 2012, 10:27 AM
naro914   I voted long ago to just hang in there with the 9...   Jan 20 2012, 11:04 AM
rohar   Here is a pix from a old thread does not show th...   Jan 20 2012, 10:31 AM
campbellcj   Them be 930 turbo (six) valve covers... If you...   Jan 20 2012, 10:51 AM
naro914   Here is a pix from a old thread does not show t...   Jan 20 2012, 11:01 AM
pcar916   Which is fine because my engine isn't a type...   Jan 20 2012, 11:04 AM
pcar916   Those are 3.2l speed and reference sensors and a t...   Jan 20 2012, 10:50 AM
naro914   FYI, I use the WEVO semi solid trans mounts on bot...   Jan 21 2012, 07:42 AM
stownsen914   A old friend who runs a 911 racecar at DEs and PCA...   Feb 2 2012, 09:38 AM


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