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| pcar916 |
Dec 29 2011, 07:27 AM
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Is that a Lola? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,524 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None
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How many of you are using gear pumps instead of diaphragm types and what filter element (micron) sizes are you using?
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| J P Stein |
Jan 22 2012, 11:04 AM
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Irrelevant old fart ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I'm with Chris on this.
Porsche's syncro system of brake bands would seem particularly sensitive to the lube thinning out. The brake band/slider is basically metal to metal less the oil film. I've seen several brake bands worn flat on the outside.....slider & dog teeth don't live long under these circumstances. Normal wear becomes catastrophic. There would seem to be an ideal temperature range for these bits to work against each other. I also think that heat expansion has little effect on shifting, but gear to gear may be another story......then the different rates of expansion between the Mag case & the steel gears/shafts may well come into play. Of course, when the oil thins, the gears come closer together (less oil film) generating more heat, then I can see the thing cascade on you. Get the sumbitch hot enough and you have no film.......the ring & pinion begin shedding metal and loose their finish surface....more heat....well, you get the idea.... I've torn down a couple trans that had reached the metal shedding point on the R & P......into the recycle bin with those. The pinion shafts were heat discolored about 1/4 of the way up the shaft. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Since those trans were from low powered cars, I think they were run out of lube.....thus the neglect. |
pcar916 Transaxle oil cooler pumps Dec 29 2011, 07:27 AM
stugray I was a little interested in this as well.
When in... Dec 29 2011, 06:12 PM
Brett W Gear pumps are light years better than the diaphra... Dec 29 2011, 08:02 PM
Richard Casto I think this is an interesting topic as well. You... Dec 29 2011, 08:24 PM
stewteral
How many of you are using gear pumps instead of d... Dec 30 2011, 12:22 AM
pcar916 Gosh, I just typed in responses for the last 30 mi... Dec 30 2011, 05:51 AM
stewteral
Gosh, I just typed in responses for the last 30 m... Dec 30 2011, 10:37 PM
pcar916 Now in order of the questions.
I considered posti... Dec 31 2011, 06:03 AM
Richard Casto Continues to be a great thread! Keep posting ... Dec 31 2011, 09:30 PM
Downunderman On my 2.7 I am using a sportomatic pump driven off... Dec 31 2011, 12:12 PM
pcar916
... and pressure feed the input shaft bearing thr... Jan 2 2012, 02:38 PM
john rogers When I added the pump and cooler setup to the race... Dec 31 2011, 07:22 PM
pcar916 Looks nice. Is the Tilton constant duty?
I talke... Dec 31 2011, 08:27 PM
john rogers Most of the sprayers I saw installed had one nozzl... Jan 2 2012, 08:18 PM
pcar916
... never to spray the oil into the R/P mesh as i... Jan 3 2012, 07:10 AM
Richard Casto
I always understood the mesh squirter was a bad i... Jan 3 2012, 07:45 AM
pcar916
I would love to see what it looks like inside a t... Jan 3 2012, 09:55 AM
Downunderman The oil feed for the input shaft bearing is throug... Jan 3 2012, 11:38 AM
john rogers Well the R&P question pops up again as I suspe... Jan 3 2012, 06:35 PM
Richard Casto
Well the R&P question pops up again as I susp... Jan 3 2012, 08:47 PM
pcar916 Now there's some empirical data. John, what wa... Jan 3 2012, 10:04 PM
john rogers Good question about the oiling of gear assemblies ... Jan 4 2012, 11:06 AM
pcar916 Aftermarket (billet) side plates are available for... Jan 4 2012, 01:03 PM
john rogers Well, for various HP ratings, Black Forest in San ... Jan 4 2012, 05:23 PM
pcar916
... 220 to 300 HP use a cooler and rebuild at the... Jan 5 2012, 06:29 PM
ottox914 The location of the pump will make a difference. G... Jan 5 2012, 07:37 PM
pcar916
Gear drive pumps... need a gravity feed- they won... Jan 5 2012, 08:10 PM
john rogers You are correct about the "gear" pump an... Jan 6 2012, 11:41 AM
pcar916
... We would then filter the trans fluid...
How... Jan 6 2012, 12:49 PM
john rogers In the pictures I posted there is a bright red fil... Jan 6 2012, 02:40 PM
pcar916 I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the ... Jan 14 2012, 11:04 AM
Randal
I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the... Jan 20 2012, 08:36 PM

pcar916
What is the breakdown of the $308 and do you... Jan 20 2012, 10:19 PM
stewteral
I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the... Jan 20 2012, 11:47 PM
pcar916
I MUST. As I put in an earlier post temps on the... Jan 21 2012, 08:28 AM
john rogers Did you give Patrick in Phoenix a call although th... Jan 14 2012, 10:30 PM
pcar916 I didn't give Patrick a call because I already... Jan 15 2012, 10:34 AM
john rogers Generally those pumps can handle the gear oil temp... Jan 15 2012, 08:04 PM
pcar916
... or you park on a very steep downhill grade al... Jan 18 2012, 11:29 AM
john rogers The temp setup Patrick sells uses the speedo hole.... Jan 18 2012, 12:29 PM
Racer Chris I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in m... Jan 21 2012, 07:23 AM
stewteral
I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in ... Jan 21 2012, 12:29 PM
Randal
I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in ... Jan 21 2012, 12:47 PM
J P Stein
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It would be hard to believe that the transmiss... Jan 21 2012, 01:06 PM
Randal
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It would be hard to believe that the transmis... Jan 21 2012, 09:19 PM
Racer Chris
So is it the fluid losing capability or the metal... Jan 21 2012, 10:00 PM
john rogers For the temps question, I found with my trans temp... Jan 26 2012, 12:04 AM
pcar916 The simplest plumb... in, out, and a vent to the c... Jan 30 2012, 05:45 PM
pcar916 Finally time for an update. I forced myself off of... Jul 10 2012, 11:19 AM
pcar916 The engine compartment plumbed and the temperature... Jul 10 2012, 11:23 AM
396 Thanks for sharing. Great looking set up Jul 24 2012, 07:47 PM
brant Chris,
my race trans builder switched me over t... Jul 24 2012, 10:18 PM
pcar916 Thanks, I've done all I can to make sure it st... Jul 25 2012, 09:21 AM
naro914 I am planning to do something similar. Been taking... Aug 15 2012, 08:01 AM
pcar916 This geared pump has no trouble at all pumping eve... Aug 16 2012, 09:54 AM
naro914 Guys,
For those using the Tilton pump, how noisy i... Aug 30 2012, 02:01 PM
pcar916 Ok, since I haven't seen an answer to this noi... Sep 18 2012, 09:44 AM
moggy
Ok, since I haven't seen an answer to this no... Sep 18 2012, 05:01 PM
pcar916
I was wondering if the RB Racing pump has the sam... Sep 18 2012, 05:21 PM
naro914 I hadn't heard that the Tilton had a 2 hour du... Sep 18 2012, 05:51 PM
pcar916
I hadn't heard that the Tilton had a 2 hour d... Sep 18 2012, 09:12 PM
pcar916 Double post deleted... Sep 19 2012, 03:06 PM
brant I finished my complete install and will be testing... Sep 18 2012, 08:56 PM
brant I added pictures of my finished cooler install int... Sep 19 2012, 06:55 PM
moggy
I added pictures of my finished cooler install in... Sep 20 2012, 04:55 AM
moggy
I added pictures of my finished cooler install in... Sep 27 2012, 01:37 PM
brant things went really well
I did not play with differ... Sep 27 2012, 10:52 PM
moggy
things went really well
I did not play with diffe... Sep 28 2012, 01:38 PM
pcar916 Nice build Brant. Specs on that pump from your pix... Sep 20 2012, 07:28 AM
moggy Hey, Ron. What was the part number of the pump you... Sep 20 2012, 02:45 PM
pcar916
Hey, Ron. What was the part number of the pump yo... Sep 20 2012, 03:53 PM
mrbubblehead Hi, great thread. I am gathering the pieces now fo... Jan 10 2013, 08:52 PM
moggy
Hi, great thread. I am gathering the pieces now f... Jan 11 2013, 03:33 PM
mrbubblehead Thank you for the photos. What I am really after a... Jan 11 2013, 08:10 PM
moggy
Thank you for the photos. What I am really after ... Jan 12 2013, 10:10 AM
brant I agree with Moogy.
limited slip differentials cre... Jan 12 2013, 12:16 PM![]() ![]() |
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