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> Engine rebuild, a few questions
stugray
post Oct 18 2010, 02:40 PM
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I have rebuilt a type IV a couple of times, but I was young & naive.
This will be a 2.0L with stock FI for vintage racing.

1 - How do I hook up the stock fuel pump line(s) to a fuel cell?

2 - are there any Cams other than the stock one that will give me increased performance while still using the stock FI?

3 - What compression ratio should I target? I am working that step right now - CC'ing the heads & setting the deck height.

4 - The CAM thrust bearing has just one side with the thrust plate on it. If I recall, when I upgraded my last 914, the guy at the performance shop gave me TWO with the thrust bearing on it (one for each side). Should I be looking for those?

5 - After splitting the case, there were 2 or 3 "bumps" that needed a little "flattening out" with a file. Can the case be damaged by trying to clean up the nasty spots, or is there a way for me to make sure to get it right?

I imagine that the only thing I could do would be to remove all the studs and rub each side over some sandpaper taped down to a very flat surface...

Any help is appreciated.

Stu
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post Jan 23 2012, 08:13 PM
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Ok, so what I am learning here is that nobody has ever had stock heads cut to ~10:1 compression ratio assuming stock pistons/stroke & deck height.....

RRRIIIIIGGHHHT wink... wink... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
SO what is the secret handshake???

I had one guy tell me that he had built at least two 914 SCCA engines that WON THE SCCA championship.
Yet he told me to run 100% stock compression with webers... In Colorado......

How hard-ass do you have to be to not share this information? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

If I could machine them myself, I would CC them at every thousandth and make a nice lookup table.
Not rocket science, but not easy to calculate chamber volume from a cast head in advance.

On another thread people posted stock CR calculators, but they do not factor in the shape of the type-IV combustion chamber and what removing X results in Y of CR change.

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post Jan 24 2012, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Jan 23 2012, 06:13 PM) *

Ok, so what I am learning here is that nobody has ever had stock heads cut to ~10:1 compression ratio assuming stock pistons/stroke & deck height.....

RRRIIIIIGGHHHT wink... wink... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
SO what is the secret handshake???

I had one guy tell me that he had built at least two 914 SCCA engines that WON THE SCCA championship.
Yet he told me to run 100% stock compression with webers... In Colorado......

How hard-ass do you have to be to not share this information? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

If I could machine them myself, I would CC them at every thousandth and make a nice lookup table.
Not rocket science, but not easy to calculate chamber volume from a cast head in advance.

On another thread people posted stock CR calculators, but they do not factor in the shape of the type-IV combustion chamber and what removing X results in Y of CR change.

Stu


Stu , since you have the heads that you want to run ,try flycutting the edge ( .010, .020,etc. ) of the plate to step it down into the chamber for CCing to get an idea of what possibly a flycut to the head might produce . It would probably be approximate , but would give an idea of a say what a flycut of the cut to the plate might give . It is cheaper to cut the plastic plate than cutting the heads several times to get to a target number and yes it might not be exact , but give some kind of idea of what could be a possible one cut to the heads might produce. Shim cylinders from there . Good Luck to ya ....

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stugray   Engine rebuild, a few questions   Oct 18 2010, 02:40 PM
Cupomeat   Ok, I'll give it a go and I am sure you will h...   Oct 18 2010, 03:01 PM
Bleyseng   2. The absolute best cams for Djet FI are Raby cam...   Oct 19 2010, 04:02 AM
stugray   Cupomeat, 1 - Still trying to find a legal fuel c...   Oct 19 2010, 11:06 AM
Cupomeat   Cupomeat, 1 - Still trying to find a legal fuel ...   Oct 19 2010, 11:15 AM
ArtechnikA   1 - Still trying to find a legal fuel cell. It ne...   Oct 19 2010, 11:52 AM
Jake Raby   Understand this: My package INCLUDES ALL the ite...   Oct 19 2010, 01:01 PM
stugray   ArtechnikA, Thanks for all the comments "T...   Oct 19 2010, 01:30 PM
ArtechnikA   ...there are HUNDREDS of choices out there and ve...   Oct 19 2010, 06:13 PM
stugray   Jake Raby, Thanks for the detailed reply. I have ...   Oct 19 2010, 01:33 PM
Jake Raby   My team is here to help you, don't worry about...   Oct 19 2010, 06:42 PM
stugray   Thanks again for the comments. Here are some pics...   Oct 20 2010, 07:02 AM
Jake Raby   Get rid of those sodium filled exhaust valves...   Oct 20 2010, 07:45 AM
stugray   Ok, Jake. I have new valves and purchased your ra...   Jan 21 2012, 12:53 PM
stugray   Ok, so what I am learning here is that nobody has ...   Jan 23 2012, 08:13 PM
jaxdream   Ok, so what I am learning here is that nobody has...   Jan 24 2012, 09:12 AM
Jake Raby   You'd waste your time.. All stock chambers ar...   Jan 23 2012, 10:38 PM
stugray   Ok Next update: I have the European Motor Works, ...   Aug 26 2012, 06:26 PM
cgnj   Hi, 60 cc's is what I got on my rebuilt stock...   Aug 26 2012, 07:44 PM
Valy   Bringing the heads to 48cc will probably remove th...   Aug 26 2012, 08:23 PM
stugray   Thanks for the tips. I will target 50cc if I can ...   Aug 27 2012, 12:00 AM
Valy   You need big washers to spread the load. I got min...   Aug 27 2012, 10:50 AM
Racer Chris   Stu, A tight deck is much better for efficient com...   Aug 27 2012, 11:25 AM
Dave_Darling   Are the 2.0 heads the ones where it is easy to bre...   Aug 27 2012, 03:56 PM


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