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| Tom |
Oct 25 2011, 06:31 PM
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Well, been meaning to get this done for a while. Didn't want the hot start kit from Bosche or the Ford relay, so I found one on line that I liked.
Installed the relay on a small bracket on one of the mounting screws for the relay board. Ran a new small yellow wire to pin 6 of the 12 pin connector and a brown ground wire to the bracket . Ran two 12 ga. wires fron the relay to the solenoid with the hot wire having an inline water resistant ATC fuse holder with a 30 amp fuse. Put some heat shrink around the normally used large yellow wire to protect it. On the solenoid side used tape to protect the connector that used to be hooked to the solenoid. This relay uses 140 mili-amp so not a very large inductive spike to worry about, but I installed a supression diode across the relay coil anyway. Also put a larger one across the solenoid coil at the relay ( 87 to ground). This supresses the solenoid coil inductive spike to protect the relay contacts. here are a few pics, and a link to more info: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&a...eg_6KDxZdKYQYGw This is the aeroelectric link Oh, I tested it several times and it works just fine. Tom Edit: changed back EMF to inductive spike, sorry if this confused anyone. Inductive or transient spike is the correct term for what is happening here Attached thumbnail(s) |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 9 2012, 09:15 AM
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Cap'n Krusty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Look out Maude, here comes the rain on the parade!
In your search for a "hidden and different" location for your hot start relay, you've put it outside the protective cover for the relay board, exposed the connections to moisture by mounting the relay on its side, mounted it where it takes a long run of heavy wire to be effective, and used cheap Chinese crap for a relay. In theory, you want a relay that will trigger at the low voltage often supplied buy the aging wiring on a 914, and you want it as close to the starter as possible, while keeping the connections out of the elements as much as possible. That's why I use a 6-volt Ford type relay, mounted close to the starter, and cover all splices and connections, other than those directly on the relay posts, with heat-shrink tubing. A fuse is unnecessary, and just another potential failure point. BTW, I have customer cars that have seen daily use for more than 25 years with the 6V relays, without a single relay failure. Ugly? Sure, but they're under the car where no one sees them, and they're convenient for service or bypass should they ever fail, which they don't. The Cap'n |
Tom starter relay Oct 25 2011, 06:31 PM
Tom Pics are large, so several posts will be needed. Oct 25 2011, 06:33 PM
Tom another one Oct 25 2011, 06:34 PM
76-914 Very nice Tom, but I'm not taking my Ford rela... Oct 25 2011, 08:28 PM
Tom 76-914,
No reason to, the Ford relay is just g... Oct 25 2011, 09:20 PM
Drums66 .....Copy of the hot start kit in another location... Oct 26 2011, 05:19 PM
Tom Drums,
Thanks for the compliment. :) Yea,... Oct 27 2011, 01:41 PM
Tom I have been thinking of the next generation of thi... Feb 9 2012, 06:40 AM
Prospectfarms
I have been thinking of the next generation of th... Feb 9 2012, 07:10 AM
pcar916
... add a push to start switch so when I need to ... Feb 9 2012, 08:54 AM
76-914
I have been thinking of the next generation of th... Feb 9 2012, 09:17 AM
vsg914 So you spent a little time and money to fix a prob... Feb 9 2012, 07:16 AM
Prospectfarms :blink:
discuss starter switch problems
Hot st... Feb 9 2012, 08:15 AM
Elliot Cannon
Look out Maude, here comes the rain on the parade... Feb 10 2012, 10:53 AM
Tom pcar916,
I haven't finalized what I will ... Feb 9 2012, 09:26 AM
Tom Cap'n Krusty,
Rain away, we PNWers are used... Feb 9 2012, 09:29 AM
andys My '47 Ford had a button right on the relay th... Feb 9 2012, 11:31 AM
ClayPerrine We had hot start problems with both 914s, but putt... Feb 9 2012, 12:28 PM
pcar916
... putting on a gear drive starter cured that on... Feb 9 2012, 12:58 PM
Tom Prospectfarms,
No starter relay in the 914. T... Feb 9 2012, 02:10 PM
76-914
Prospectfarms,
I have no plans at ... Feb 10 2012, 07:24 PM
Prospectfarms Yes, I understand that every time you open a circu... Feb 10 2012, 12:15 AM
Tom Well, now that I have the fuse block kits all done... Apr 6 2012, 10:49 AM
Tom With no forum to spend time on, I found time to fi... May 15 2012, 06:01 AM
76-914 Tom, I received my kit while this site was down. C... May 15 2012, 09:15 AM
Tom Kent,
I sent you a PM. I think I put in some... May 15 2012, 01:11 PM
Valy Tom very nice but a word of advise:
Please, put a ... May 15 2012, 01:20 PM
jim_hoyland Like your idea, very clean installation. If the wi... May 15 2012, 04:33 PM
Tom Jim,
With the key off, the coil has no power ... May 15 2012, 07:08 PM
jim_hoyland Please post the schematic, the parts list, and ins... May 15 2012, 07:33 PM
Tom Jim,
I'll put an updated schematic tomorrow... May 15 2012, 09:22 PM
Tom As you can see from the pictures the large yellow ... May 16 2012, 06:15 AM
Tom Additional pics for illustration purposes.
To... May 16 2012, 06:18 AM
Tom more.
Even though this is first gen of this m... May 16 2012, 06:20 AM
jim_hoyland Am I correct that the relay will be used by both t... May 16 2012, 08:49 AM
Tom Jim,
Yes, the relay works for both the key swit... May 16 2012, 08:58 AM
jim_hoyland Just installed the relay today. How much amperage ... Jul 3 2012, 06:21 PM
76-914 Jim, the amp load to activate the relay is minimal... Jul 3 2012, 06:32 PM
Tom Jim,
The relay I used draws about 145 miliAmps... Jul 4 2012, 03:12 AM
Harpo Good afternoon Tom,
You posted that these kits ar... Jul 4 2012, 10:53 AM
Tom Auto Atlanta sells them. They are in the catalogue... Jul 4 2012, 11:44 AM
jim_hoyland Finally completed the hot start relay and added th... Jul 6 2012, 02:35 PM
jim_hoyland Remote starter unit. Momentary switch and magnet..... Jul 6 2012, 02:37 PM
jim_hoyland Installed out of view, and set up on grill.... Jul 6 2012, 02:38 PM
Tom Jim,
That is looking nice, glad it all worked o... Jul 6 2012, 07:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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