OT: Big Brother is on his way, Whats next? Options

[StratPlayer]

Had more freedom when I was a kid than I do now. What the hell is going on in this country.

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[dmenche914]

Well I guess the 3000 dead feel better that the Patriot act might have saved them if it was inacted then.

As far as airline security, yes if we had armed pilots, locked doors etc it might have prevented that attack. however we have a muslim enemy that is bent on killing civilians, even if it means suicide. So if they can't use our passenger jets, maybe they will go to cargo jets, or private jets as missles. Just wait for bus bombs, like in isreal, then what, metal detectors for busses. How about that and it is very easy to do compared to anthrax and such, maybe a moscow stlye theater take over? There will hit us again, maybe not with planes, but they will find a way unless we crush them dirty pigs to a pulp. Bush is doing this, (but not fast enough for me)

Of we have to inact security for suicide bombers, truck bombs, even hoaxes of anthrax, the percieved loss of freedom by the patriot act will appear as nothing compared to what we americans will have to endure for security, you hate it, but it might become needed to perserve lives, thus I say kill them muslims terrorists now, where they live.

True france helped us out, and yes they did not help set up our government, but then again we (in america) where not millions of raging muslim loonies trying to set up some taliban utopia either. Since then, france has proven to be pretty much worthless. It was france amoung others that had sweet oil deals with saddam, that is one reason the opposed the war, they also has a very large radical muslim population now to contend with. france is basically worthless. it took about a decade to get a running good democracy with civil rights and rule of law in japan and germany after WWII, it is a bit of a strech to think we can just get saddam, and leave, thinking iraq can set up a just government just like that, we haven't killed off enough of there bad guys yet. we have so far done a pretty damn good job in Afganistain so far, at least the women are not beaten with iron pipe anymore for showing an ankle in public!

Jobs are coming back, believe it or not they are. We took a big hit with the"dot com" bust, be we also know that it was mainly driven by hype, unrealistic stock purchases, and crooked companies. This did not start under Bush, but did end under him. We are now in recovery, and will be back on track soon. the fake ecomony of clinton just could not last on the lies and greed that drove the market artificailly high.

As far as this nation always being all lovey lovey with tyrants in the past (your "america") keep in mind the only way we stopped hitler and tojo was bombing the hell out of them bastards, men women and children. We killed them in order to preserve peace and civility. I know this may sound strange to fight a war to keep the peace, but thats the way it is, and always has been, you have to kill the bad guys before they get you.

If we do not kill them where they are, they will come here again. Our planes may be safer, but they will try anything, even low tech has worked for them (Bali night club bombing).

I support Bush becuase he is taking the fight to the enemy. If kerry thinks we should get UN approval, well maybe he just doen't understand who are freinds are, and who has common interests with us, it aint the UN thats for sure. kerry "voted for the $87 mil for our troops before he voted against it" great double speak here.

you can have the best schools in the world, but that does not stop terrorists. In california we spend a ton on education, much of it pissed away on schools that are administered poorly. More money aint the issue, it's the administration, and teachers unions that have hurt the kids the most. Big administrative staffs, bilingual education, stupid manadates for education from politicians, lavish new offices for school administrators (Oakland calif.) while school room crumble. In my town all the scools just got new play fields, a stadium, and several new auditoriums, millions spent, but none on books or classrooms, yes they are using trailers for classrooms at the middle scool that just got a new auditorium, track, filed, and baseball diamond (and the old ones were just fine). You can bet your ass the teachers union will suport some new tax on me for the sad shape of the trailer, or the ragged book the poor kids must use, they never asked me to give my money for new fileds, or stadiums, parents that do not serve as a good example to their kids is also a problem, money will not fix that.

With a reduced military, what do you think we will do? Guess we would have had to leave the taliban in power.