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> Trying to watch the Daytona 500..., and just can't do it. They should call it the Danica 500
billh1963
post Feb 27 2012, 06:20 PM
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First of all I'm not a fan of NASCAR. But, even more importantly, it's all about Danica....just can't stand to listen to all the hype
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post Feb 28 2012, 12:13 PM
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NASCAR is not real racing. NASCAR is an entertainment industry that happens to use cars for the entertainment. That is evidenced by the mysterious "debris on the track" yellow flags used to bunch up the field. Now they have the cars so restricted the only difference between the Ford, Dodge, Chevy or Toyota is the badge on the front. When there are 24 cars within a half a second after 300 miles of "racing", I figure that it is all about the TV ratings and the money.

The same goes for Formula 1.


Real racing is when the good driver with the good equipment can win by a bunch of laps, or the medeokre driver can win with great equipment. Or when the racing team with the shoestring budget can pour over the rule book and find that one loophole that allows them to clean up on the track. Mark Donohue called that the "Unfair Advantage", and he was always looking for it.

Real racing is the guy with the old open trailer and older truck driving hundreds of miles to races with his race car. He is the driver, the crew chief, and the whole pit crew. He knows he will be eating cheap fast food and sleeping in his truck. But he does it every weekend he can afford to, because he loves racing. He wants to win, but knows in his heart that the guy with the bigger wallet but less talent will beat him. But he keeps going anyway.

Real racing is the woman who wants to race so badly that she is willing to give up a family, a spouse/boyfriend and friends because they say it isn't "Lady Like" to race.

Just for comparison, I would rather watch a little league game than the World Series. By the time anyone gets to that level of a sport, they are so consumed by the system that they are there for the money and fame, not for the love of the sport. Racing is no different. I won't attend a NASCAR race, but I will go to the 1.4 mile dirt track or the 24 hours of LEMONS races in a heartbeat.

Just my $.02.

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post Feb 28 2012, 12:46 PM
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For those who read Peter Egan's articles he says as much.

I remember when I was around 10 we had a neighbor who raced an old MGB in SCCA races. He towed his car with an old station wagon. His equipment was old, his suit was old, and even he was old (to me at the time...lol). But, he did it because he loved it .


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NASCAR is not real racing. NASCAR is an entertainment industry that happens to use cars for the entertainment. That is evidenced by the mysterious "debris on the track" yellow flags used to bunch up the field. Now they have the cars so restricted the only difference between the Ford, Dodge, Chevy or Toyota is the badge on the front. When there are 24 cars within a half a second after 300 miles of "racing", I figure that it is all about the TV ratings and the money.

The same goes for Formula 1.


Real racing is when the good driver with the good equipment can win by a bunch of laps, or the medeokre driver can win with great equipment. Or when the racing team with the shoestring budget can pour over the rule book and find that one loophole that allows them to clean up on the track. Mark Donohue called that the "Unfair Advantage", and he was always looking for it.

Real racing is the guy with the old open trailer and older truck driving hundreds of miles to races with his race car. He is the driver, the crew chief, and the whole pit crew. He knows he will be eating cheap fast food and sleeping in his truck. But he does it every weekend he can afford to, because he loves racing. He wants to win, but knows in his heart that the guy with the bigger wallet but less talent will beat him. But he keeps going anyway.

Real racing is the woman who wants to race so badly that she is willing to give up a family, a spouse/boyfriend and friends because they say it isn't "Lady Like" to race.

Just for comparison, I would rather watch a little league game than the World Series. By the time anyone gets to that level of a sport, they are so consumed by the system that they are there for the money and fame, not for the love of the sport. Racing is no different. I won't attend a NASCAR race, but I will go to the 1.4 mile dirt track or the 24 hours of LEMONS races in a heartbeat.

Just my $.02.
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billh1963   Trying to watch the Daytona 500...   Feb 27 2012, 06:20 PM
blitZ   I was only going to watch long enough to watch her...   Feb 27 2012, 07:02 PM
billh1963   I was only going to watch long enough to watch he...   Feb 27 2012, 07:11 PM
Tom   Last three race periods, 6 min of race coverage th...   Feb 27 2012, 07:10 PM
PeeGreen 914   I just flipped to it a few times to see how bad sh...   Feb 27 2012, 08:12 PM
Tom   Jon, I don't either anymore. Sure used to ...   Feb 27 2012, 08:38 PM
AZ914   I think its a problem with media, or sports-media ...   Feb 27 2012, 08:50 PM
scott_in_nh   I think its a problem with media, or sports-media...   Feb 28 2012, 07:49 AM
URY914   I think its a problem with media, or sports-medi...   Feb 28 2012, 07:58 AM
Sawfish   I disagree with you guys You must secretly like he...   Feb 27 2012, 08:57 PM
GeorgeRud   Montoya just had his car hit the track drying truc...   Feb 27 2012, 09:13 PM
Krieger   Nice fire! Looks like everybody's okay.   Feb 27 2012, 09:15 PM
ThePaintedMan   Did anyone see the "patch" they put down...   Feb 27 2012, 10:25 PM
kg6dxn   s1CjhZii1Yw&   Feb 27 2012, 11:09 PM
matthepcat   House got postponed because of this race. Lame.   Feb 27 2012, 11:48 PM
sixnotfour   My wife is The Nasty car fan in our house sooo, wh...   Feb 28 2012, 02:39 AM
scott_in_nh   The cure is to turn off the tv and go support your...   Feb 28 2012, 08:22 AM
brant   scott is right. I go to the local paved 8th every ...   Feb 28 2012, 10:43 AM
ClayPerrine   NASCAR is not real racing. NASCAR is an entertainm...   Feb 28 2012, 12:13 PM
billh1963   For those who read Peter Egan's articles he sa...   Feb 28 2012, 12:46 PM
scott_in_nh   :agree: your 2 cents are spot on Clay.   Feb 28 2012, 12:21 PM
markb   :agree: your 2 cents are spot on Clay. :agree:   Feb 28 2012, 12:27 PM
scott_in_nh   My brother's midget race car above was towed o...   Feb 28 2012, 01:19 PM
jeff   Prior to Danicas arrival they would talk about the...   Feb 28 2012, 01:34 PM
struckn   NASCAR is interesting but pretty boring to watch. ...   Feb 28 2012, 01:38 PM
ClayPerrine   NASCAR is interesting but pretty boring to watch....   Feb 28 2012, 02:09 PM
zymurgist   NASCAR is interesting but pretty boring to watch....   Feb 28 2012, 03:10 PM
scott_in_nh   NASCAR is interesting but pretty boring to watch...   Feb 28 2012, 03:22 PM
Todd Enlund   NASCAR is interesting but pretty boring to watch...   Feb 28 2012, 11:05 PM
scott_in_nh   I don’t hope for crashes but if they are going t...   Feb 28 2012, 02:39 PM
bcheney   I don’t hope for crashes but if they are going ...   Feb 29 2012, 06:16 AM
Elliot Cannon   They aren't Fords, Chevys, Dodges or Toyotas. ...   Feb 29 2012, 12:22 AM


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