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| SirAndy |
Feb 6 2008, 01:38 AM
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Convert to real 5-lug using 944 CVsThis Article describes how to convert the rear axles on your 914 to give you real 5-lug hubs using a mix of 914, 944 and 911 components. Tools and Supplies:
Step 1: Preparing the axle shafts Remove the CV joints from your old axles and machine both ends of your axle shafts to allow the wider 944 CVs to slide on. You'll have to remove 4mm of material to make up for the wider 944 CVs. 4mm of material removed: ![]() Stock 914 CV on the left and a 944 CV on the right ![]() Step 2: Putting it all together Grease up your new 944 CVs and slide them on the machined axle shaft *without* using the stock spring washer behind the CV! Make sure the CV slides all the way on and don't forget to put the circlip back onto the shaft to prevent the CV from sliding off. Note: Make sure the "groove" on the outside of the new CVs always points away from the axle (see picture with the complete axle). Remove the old stub axles and hub. Remove the old wheel bearings. Install the new wheel bearing in your trailing arms. Make sure the bearing surface on your new hubs is clean and press in the new hubs. Install the new stub axles and tighten the axle nut. Remove the old output flanges from your transmission, replace the seals and slide in the new 911 flanges. Grease up both, the output flange cup and the stub axle cup and install your new axles. Don't forget the CV seals! Tighten everything to spec and enjoy! 911 coarse spline output shaft and 911 stub axle: ![]() 944 CV on 914 axle shaft: ![]() Test fitting the output shaft on the 944 CV: ![]() And at last, the completed axle. The top shows the original 914/4 axle, the bottom shows the new axle: ![]() Mounted on the car: ![]() |
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| matthepcat |
Mar 13 2012, 09:15 AM
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His stub axles are the type that do not need seals.
I have those stubs and no grease is slingin' |
| ClayPerrine |
Mar 13 2012, 12:28 PM
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SirAndy HOW TO: Convert to real 5-lug in the rear using 944 CVs Feb 6 2008, 01:38 AM
SirAndy did i miss something ???
:idea: Feb 6 2008, 01:38 AM
johannes
did i miss something ???
:idea:
Yes, : This... Feb 6 2008, 01:50 AM
Wanna9146
did i miss something ???
Yes...when are you go... Feb 6 2008, 04:50 AM
rebelmdot
did i miss something ???
:idea:
Andy, can ... Feb 6 2008, 06:01 AM
davep
did i miss something ???
:idea:
I'd add ... Feb 6 2008, 08:26 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT :agree: Feb 6 2008, 01:52 AM
Joe Ricard Because you don't have to re-drill a 4 hub. Feb 6 2008, 06:24 AM
Gint Let this go a few days and make all the edits you ... Feb 6 2008, 07:24 AM
Richard Casto Andy,
Thanks for the write up. I will probably b... Feb 6 2008, 07:55 AM
anderssj Great article!
:agree: It would be helpful t... Feb 6 2008, 08:37 AM
stephenaki How does this affect the issue with the parking/em... Feb 6 2008, 09:00 AM
Richard Casto
How does this affect the issue with the parking/e... Feb 6 2008, 09:40 AM
John
How does this affect the issue with the parking/... Feb 6 2008, 09:54 AM
stephenaki
I believe that e-brake issues are more of a func... Feb 6 2008, 10:02 AM
Richard Casto
[quote name='Richard Casto' post='994963' date='F... Feb 6 2008, 10:26 AM
Wes V First off, thanks!!
Requested additions;
... Feb 6 2008, 11:26 AM
stephenaki
I think John's point above answers your que... Feb 6 2008, 12:57 PM
PRS914-6 Andy, nice write up!
I'm going to add a f... Feb 6 2008, 09:52 AM
Steve Thacker Andy,
You have outdone yourself again. I wish I w... Feb 6 2008, 11:45 AM
Krieger914 Andy thanks for your help on this. I did this con... Feb 7 2008, 10:17 PM
SirAndy Just a quick update. I have been running my axles ... Aug 18 2008, 01:42 PM
-JR- Based on Andy's notes I've assembled these... Jun 21 2010, 05:09 PM
jimkelly so, are these parts still readily available these ... Jul 5 2017, 06:34 AM
-JR- Alternate method: *no machine work*
I should add ... Jun 21 2010, 05:48 PM
SirAndy
-944 Turbo CV joints (951 332 901 00)
-914 axel s... Jun 21 2010, 06:16 PM
-JR-
The 944 CVs are too wide to fit on a stock 914-4 ... Jun 21 2010, 10:24 PM
SirAndy He may have not used the retaining clip.
That... Jun 21 2010, 11:45 PM
SirAndy Since I have your attention Andy, your post only s... Jun 22 2010, 12:00 AM
Krieger914 I did exactly what Andy did. Here is the profile ... Jun 21 2010, 06:37 PM
Krieger914 Shit! I just noticed the date at the bottom. ... Jun 21 2010, 06:39 PM
jaxdream There is another twist to the axle / cv delima, ma... Jun 21 2010, 10:29 PM
SirAndy the trans side leave un machined if you can't... Jun 21 2010, 11:43 PM
jimkelly •two 911 ('69 - '73?) hubs, must have sa... Jun 22 2010, 05:35 AM
matthepcat What about using 944 hubs? Apr 10 2011, 02:28 PM
scotty b
What about using 944 hubs?
something else I hav... Apr 10 2011, 03:03 PM
matthepcat Well I am going to give it a try. What do I have t... Apr 10 2011, 03:09 PM
pcar916 Having gone through this recently, The 911, 944 an... Apr 10 2011, 03:33 PM
matthepcat Is this inboard spacer a custom piece or available... Apr 10 2011, 04:13 PM
matthepcat Update on 944 hubs.
They don't work becuase ... Jun 8 2011, 04:06 PM
SirAndy Update on 944 hubs.
They don't work becuase t... Jun 8 2011, 05:29 PM
PeeGreen 914 You can use spacers on the caliper to line them up... Jun 8 2011, 04:13 PM
matthepcat
You can use spacers on the caliper to line them u... Jun 8 2011, 05:23 PM
Eric_Shea Have you tried the 944 rear rotor? Its quite a bi... Jun 8 2011, 05:47 PM
matthepcat No I haven't but I assume this would require m... Jun 8 2011, 05:50 PM
Eric_Shea Why? I believe they're within 1mm in diameter... Jun 8 2011, 05:57 PM
matthepcat
Why? I believe they're within 1mm in diamete... Jun 8 2011, 07:29 PM
Eric_Shea Ahhhhh.. That, yes, they are vented. For some reas... Jun 8 2011, 09:37 PM
McMark If caliper spacers are too janky, then pull your t... Jun 9 2011, 12:06 AM
PRS914-6
If caliper spacers are too janky, then pull your ... Jun 9 2011, 06:56 AM
matthepcat Haha! Well I think swapping hubs would be a ta... Jun 9 2011, 08:27 AM
jaxdream
Haha! Well I think swapping hubs would be a t... Jun 9 2011, 08:46 AM
matthepcat Hey Jack,
I have not measured yet (hopefully get ... Jun 9 2011, 12:17 PM
jaxdream Yes M rear calipers and converted to alternative e... Jun 9 2011, 04:12 PM
jimkelly some cv dim info
http://blindchickenracing.com/How... Nov 18 2011, 07:56 AM
Aaron Cox Andy,
Many thanks for putting this write up toge... Mar 11 2012, 03:59 PM
matthepcat I had to use a cv gasket between the inner cv and ... Mar 12 2012, 01:10 AM
ClayPerrine Yes, they do require a CV gasket. If you don... Mar 12 2012, 11:23 AM
Aaron Cox
Yes, they do require a CV gasket. If you don... Mar 12 2012, 11:36 AM
matthepcat No.
Only on the inner CV.
Yes, they do require... Mar 12 2012, 03:25 PM
ClayPerrine
No.
Only on the inner CV.
[quote name='Aaron Co... Mar 13 2012, 08:16 AM
Aaron Cox roger matt. Thanks.
BTW - anyone need any 951 stu... Mar 12 2012, 03:45 PM
davesprinkle Is this the same Aaron Cox that hasn't posted ... Mar 12 2012, 09:14 PM
Aaron Cox what the heck, a few bucks each I'll run them.... Mar 13 2012, 12:35 PM
bulitt "Now, anyone else need 944 stub axle bearing ... Mar 14 2012, 04:27 AM
chuckc
what the heck, a few bucks each I'll run them... Mar 15 2012, 03:28 PM
zig-n-zag I could use a pair of those spacers as well, pm se... Mar 14 2012, 03:04 AM
Aaron Cox Looks like 6 or so people interested in spacers fo... Mar 15 2012, 03:36 PM
Aaron Cox Interesting...
I think you can run a 944 (non tur... Mar 16 2012, 10:39 PM
ClayPerrine
Interesting...
I think you can run a 944 (non tu... Mar 17 2012, 06:59 AM
John
Interesting...
I think you can run a 944 (non tu... Mar 17 2012, 08:03 AM
jaxdream
Interesting...
I think you can run a 944 (non tu... Mar 18 2012, 08:41 AM
Krieger
Interesting...
I think you can run a 944 (non tu... Mar 18 2012, 12:58 PM
DBCooper Am I too late for a pair of those spacers?
There... Mar 17 2012, 11:29 AM
Aaron Cox Sure, ill have my bud crank out another set.
Hmm... Mar 17 2012, 11:17 PM
Travis Neff Gimme your paypal addy! Mar 17 2012, 11:36 PM
DBCooper OK, I still couldn't find a microfiche, but th... Mar 18 2012, 12:37 PM
kg6dxn There is a NOS set of 944 automatic axles on SF Cr... Mar 18 2012, 03:08 PM
DBCooper From the part number those are both right side axl... Mar 19 2012, 09:52 AM
Aaron Cox Updates - I'll go measure the short 944 axle a... Mar 19 2012, 10:16 AM
rick 918-S Too late for a set of spacers? Mar 19 2012, 10:36 AM
Aaron Cox Hi Rick, I think i can get 8 sets out of this bloc... Mar 19 2012, 02:04 PM
jaxdream
Hi Rick, I think i can get 8 sets out of this blo... Mar 19 2012, 03:42 PM
jaxdream From your measurements , the 944 axle is a bit sho... Mar 19 2012, 03:41 PM
Aaron Cox
From your measurements , the 944 axle is a bit sh... Mar 19 2012, 03:54 PM
SirAndy I highly doubt that 4mm will effect anything short... Mar 22 2012, 12:10 PM
Aaron Cox
I highly doubt that 4mm will effect anything shor... Mar 22 2012, 02:16 PM
jaxdream Aaron , I'd love to get a set of the 944 axles... Mar 20 2012, 08:25 AM
Aaron Cox 944 Axles i got were from ebay from LA Car Dismant... Mar 20 2012, 08:39 AM
Aaron Cox Alright, so my friend got a few sets done in his s... Mar 22 2012, 09:33 AM
Aaron Cox Followed Andy's directions step by step, and g... May 15 2012, 08:47 AM
Travis Neff Aaron, I thought you were gonna try using the 944 ... May 16 2012, 08:03 AM
Aaron Cox
Aaron, I thought you were gonna try using the 944... May 16 2012, 08:05 AM
Krieger So I finally got my "Sir Andy" style axl... May 31 2012, 07:56 PM
Ecke Liebhaber Thank you to Sir Andy and all who posted. I just ... Feb 23 2016, 06:49 AM![]() ![]() |
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