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Randal
post May 27 2004, 11:44 AM
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OK, all you big time racers out there, what is the correct procedure to purge air out of a tire before filling it with nitrogen?

The reason I ask is that any moisture mixed with nitrogen will create nitric acid, or some such vile stuff, if I remember correctly.

What about using air tools? Looks like a job for rubber gloves.
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post May 27 2004, 01:59 PM
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well from a beginning level of chemistry I can tell you;

PV=nRT

that is the Pressure times Volume equals number of moles (or molecules) in the gas times a constant times the temperature.

It would make logical sense that, assuming n, R, and V are going to stay the same (because no air escapes and volume doesnt change), as temperature increases, pressure increases. To combat that, you would have to decrease the number of molecules in the gas (a property of the gas) to make the pressure less sensitive to temperature. I dont have any values on me, and this problem would be very complex because n of ambient air varies a lot, but I can say the atomic mass of oxygen is 16 and nitrogen is 14. Now if you were to go to hydrogen or something (atomic mass of 1) there might be a noticable difference, but I think 2 molecules would be considered neglegable.

But what do I know...
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Randal   Racing   May 27 2004, 11:44 AM
SirAndy     May 27 2004, 12:06 PM
jridder   > any moisture mixed with nitrogen will create nit...   May 27 2004, 12:10 PM
seanery   the nitrogen benefit (IIRC) is that it won't g...   May 27 2004, 01:16 PM
Randal   The other benefit is that I can run air tools. Ni...   May 27 2004, 01:18 PM
SirAndy   <...   May 27 2004, 01:24 PM
brant   andy, I've always heard this is legit... ac...   May 27 2004, 01:48 PM
Brad Roberts   So gang... why does Airgas bring over 1000 bottles...   May 27 2004, 01:57 PM
MattR   well from a beginning level of chemistry I can tel...   May 27 2004, 01:59 PM
rdauenhauer   I can tell you from experiance this is something w...   May 27 2004, 02:13 PM
James Adams   The first reason nitrogen is used is that it is th...   May 27 2004, 02:24 PM
SirAndy  
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Britain Smith   Check this product out...it allows you to purge al...   May 27 2004, 02:41 PM
Britain Smith   http://www.clparts.com/amotorsports/msimages/humdt...   May 27 2004, 02:44 PM
Britain Smith   Why purge? Humidity inside your race tires causes ...   May 27 2004, 02:45 PM
Randal   Andy, Your a smart guy Andy, but I just wonder if...   May 27 2004, 02:52 PM
SirAndy     May 27 2004, 03:01 PM
groot   Carrol Smith recommends using a shop vac and some ...   May 27 2004, 03:03 PM
Randal   Thanks groot. Who is Carol Smith? But I like the...   May 27 2004, 03:29 PM
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Racer Chris     May 27 2004, 06:58 PM
brant   Chris, I was always told the DOT tires were a bi...   May 28 2004, 08:55 AM


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