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Randal
post May 27 2004, 11:44 AM
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OK, all you big time racers out there, what is the correct procedure to purge air out of a tire before filling it with nitrogen?

The reason I ask is that any moisture mixed with nitrogen will create nitric acid, or some such vile stuff, if I remember correctly.

What about using air tools? Looks like a job for rubber gloves.
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post May 27 2004, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ May 27 2004, 12:57 PM)
It is much easier to maintain consistan tire pressures when utilizing Nitrogen

ok, here are some numbers ...

At a temperature of 0°C and a pressure of 1 atmosphere, the densities of air, nitrogen and oxygen are:

Air: 1.293kg/m3
Nitrogen: 1.250kg/m3
Oxygen: 1.429 kg/m3

Notice the very small difference between good ole Air and Nitrogen?
less than 0.043 kg, that's a whooping 43 gram per m3 !

now, let's look at some more numbers, comparing Nitrogen and Oxygen:

 

O2

N2

Normal boilingpoint at atmospheric pressure, oC

-183

-196

Ration of volume of gas tovolume of liquid, measured at

 15oC and absolute pressure of 101.3 kPa

842

682

Relative density of gas at101.3 kPa and 25oC (Air = 1)

1.105

0.967

Liquid density at absolutepressure of 101.3 kPa, kg m-3

1141

807

Latent heat ofevaporation, kJ kg-1

213

199



mind you, we're actually interested in how AIR compares to Nitrogen, not Oxygen to Nitrogen, so we need to take the above numbers and put them into a 80/20 split in favor of the Nitrogen ...

bottomline, the expansion rate of pure Nitrogen gas compared to normal Air is about the same ...

now, that doesn't mean that someone can't make a shitload of money selling that stuff to racers who would sell their firstborn to get 1/100th of a second ahead.

flames on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Andy
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Randal   Racing   May 27 2004, 11:44 AM
SirAndy     May 27 2004, 12:06 PM
jridder   > any moisture mixed with nitrogen will create nit...   May 27 2004, 12:10 PM
seanery   the nitrogen benefit (IIRC) is that it won't g...   May 27 2004, 01:16 PM
Randal   The other benefit is that I can run air tools. Ni...   May 27 2004, 01:18 PM
SirAndy   <...   May 27 2004, 01:24 PM
brant   andy, I've always heard this is legit... ac...   May 27 2004, 01:48 PM
Brad Roberts   So gang... why does Airgas bring over 1000 bottles...   May 27 2004, 01:57 PM
MattR   well from a beginning level of chemistry I can tel...   May 27 2004, 01:59 PM
rdauenhauer   I can tell you from experiance this is something w...   May 27 2004, 02:13 PM
James Adams   The first reason nitrogen is used is that it is th...   May 27 2004, 02:24 PM
SirAndy  
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Britain Smith   Check this product out...it allows you to purge al...   May 27 2004, 02:41 PM
Britain Smith   http://www.clparts.com/amotorsports/msimages/humdt...   May 27 2004, 02:44 PM
Britain Smith   Why purge? Humidity inside your race tires causes ...   May 27 2004, 02:45 PM
Randal   Andy, Your a smart guy Andy, but I just wonder if...   May 27 2004, 02:52 PM
SirAndy     May 27 2004, 03:01 PM
groot   Carrol Smith recommends using a shop vac and some ...   May 27 2004, 03:03 PM
Randal   Thanks groot. Who is Carol Smith? But I like the...   May 27 2004, 03:29 PM
thesey914  
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Racer Chris     May 27 2004, 06:58 PM
brant   Chris, I was always told the DOT tires were a bi...   May 28 2004, 08:55 AM


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