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1970 Neun vierzehn
post Sep 4 2011, 10:28 PM
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Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts.

'72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s.

So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat?

Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents?

My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof.

I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted.

Paul
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post Sep 14 2011, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Sep 4 2011, 10:28 PM) *

Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts.

'72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s.

So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat?

Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents?

My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof.

I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted.

Paul

From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat.
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post Sep 15 2011, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 14 2011, 05:27 PM) *

QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Sep 4 2011, 10:28 PM) *

Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts.

'72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s.

So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat?

Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents?

My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof.

I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted.

Paul

From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat.



According to my information, '72/4's passenger seats were all moveable. Most with the non-retractable belts. Check your '72 sales brochure. It's quite clear in the pics. Also, read the R&T article from Feb '72 as well as many other books written on 914.
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QUOTE(sixerdon @ Sep 15 2011, 09:48 PM) *

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 14 2011, 05:27 PM) *

QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Sep 4 2011, 10:28 PM) *

Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts.

'72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s.

So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat?

Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents?

My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof.

I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted.

Paul

From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat.



According to my information, '72/4's passenger seats were all moveable. Most with the non-retractable belts. Check your '72 sales brochure. It's quite clear in the pics. Also, read the R&T article from Feb '72 as well as many other books written on 914.
Don

I beg to disagree!

In April 72 I drove a new TR6 and a new 914/4. I was leaning towards the TR6, but the floor heat was too much. The 914 was much better, but had too little airflow into the cabin, and the passenger seat was fixed. Porsche salesman told me to wait (really?) for a couple of months because there would be side vents, moveable passenger seat, and retractable belts.

Waited until early August and the salesman was correct. My car is July production (according to the sticker). Has all the aforementioned updates.

Don't have it in front of me, but I think Doc Johnson's tome would agree.
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post Dec 26 2011, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Dec 24 2011, 07:46 PM) *

QUOTE(sixerdon @ Sep 15 2011, 09:48 PM) *

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 14 2011, 05:27 PM) *

QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Sep 4 2011, 10:28 PM) *

Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts.

'72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s.

So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat?

Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents?

My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof.

I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted.

Paul

From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat.



According to my information, '72/4's passenger seats were all moveable. Most with the non-retractable belts. Check your '72 sales brochure. It's quite clear in the pics. Also, read the R&T article from Feb '72 as well as many other books written on 914.
Don

I beg to disagree!

In April 72 I drove a new TR6 and a new 914/4. I was leaning towards the TR6, but the floor heat was too much. The 914 was much better, but had too little airflow into the cabin, and the passenger seat was fixed. Porsche salesman told me to wait (really?) for a couple of months because there would be side vents, moveable passenger seat, and retractable belts.

Waited until early August and the salesman was correct. My car is July production (according to the sticker). Has all the aforementioned updates.

Don't have it in front of me, but I think Doc Johnson's tome would agree.
Pat


Pat, Is it possible you drove a left over '71 dealer test vehicle?
Doc Johnson says, "A third version of the dash was used on all models from 1972 on." (this is in reference to the two earlier versions of the '70/'71 models /4 & /6)
"This corresponds to the wiper/washer system controls being moved to the column on four-cyl cars, disappearance of the center defrost vent and the appearance of fresh air vents on the ends of the dash board." Page 59 of the revised edition.
In addition, I have an early '72 owners manual printed VIII/71 which shows a detailed picture of the new '72 MY dash.
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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Sep 4 2011, 10:28 PM) *

Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts.

'72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s.

So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat?

Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents?

My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof.

I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted.

Paul

From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat.



According to my information, '72/4's passenger seats were all moveable. Most with the non-retractable belts. Check your '72 sales brochure. It's quite clear in the pics. Also, read the R&T article from Feb '72 as well as many other books written on 914.
Don

I beg to disagree!

In April 72 I drove a new TR6 and a new 914/4. I was leaning towards the TR6, but the floor heat was too much. The 914 was much better, but had too little airflow into the cabin, and the passenger seat was fixed. Porsche salesman told me to wait (really?) for a couple of months because there would be side vents, moveable passenger seat, and retractable belts.

Waited until early August and the salesman was correct. My car is July production (according to the sticker). Has all the aforementioned updates.

Don't have it in front of me, but I think Doc Johnson's tome would agree.
Pat


Pat, Is it possible you drove a left over '71 dealer test vehicle?
Doc Johnson says, "A third version of the dash was used on all models from 1972 on." (this is in reference to the two earlier versions of the '70/'71 models /4 & /6)
"This corresponds to the wiper/washer system controls being moved to the column on four-cyl cars, disappearance of the center defrost vent and the appearance of fresh air vents on the ends of the dash board." Page 59 of the revised edition.
In addition, I have an early '72 owners manual printed VIII/71 which shows a detailed picture of the new '72 MY dash.
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1970 Neun vierzehn   914 anomilies   Sep 4 2011, 10:28 PM
THE STIG   I saw a 1972 1 owner with early belts. It was an e...   Sep 8 2011, 10:31 AM
Gustl   My early car also did/does not have any headliner...   Sep 8 2011, 11:41 AM
whatabout1   My '73 1.8 has early doors with a thin armco s...   Sep 8 2011, 01:16 PM
sixerdon   It has been well documented that the 1970 models d...   Sep 8 2011, 08:03 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Correct me if I'm wrong, but I bet yours do...   Sep 8 2011, 08:44 PM
Gustl   It has been well documented that the 1970 models ...   Sep 8 2011, 10:18 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   [quote name='sixerdon' post='1536513' date='Sep 9...   Sep 9 2011, 07:37 PM
Gustl   "The earliest 914s and 914/6s and all 1970 a...   Sep 9 2011, 11:37 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   well, my 70/6 is a very late model (June 1970) ...   Sep 10 2011, 08:33 PM
Gustl   Is there any sign of residual adhesive on the und...   Sep 10 2011, 11:47 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   [quote name='1970 Neun vierzehn' post='1537480' d...   Sep 14 2011, 06:43 PM
sixerdon   "The earliest 914s and 914/6s and all 1970 ...   Sep 15 2011, 08:38 PM
Gustl   Question; Do you have the original warranty bookl...   Sep 15 2011, 10:14 PM
sixerdon   Question; Do you have the original warranty book...   Sep 16 2011, 07:01 AM
ppetion   My 70 did not have one. I always wonder why? BTW...   Sep 10 2011, 10:09 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   My 70 did not have one. I always wonder why? BT...   Sep 14 2011, 06:10 PM
Pat Garvey   Well apparently (according to "World" i...   Sep 14 2011, 07:27 PM
sixerdon   Well apparently (according to "World" ...   Sep 15 2011, 08:48 PM
nathansnathan   [quote name='Pat Garvey' post='1539408' date='Sep...   Dec 19 2011, 03:34 PM
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sixerdon   [quote name='Pat Garvey' post='1539408' date='Se...   Dec 26 2011, 08:58 AM
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