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nsyr
post Jun 3 2004, 04:47 PM
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I know there a few people out there with turbo 4's. Does anybody have any performance or reliability figures.
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post Jun 4 2004, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(Sammy @ Jun 4 2004, 09:50 AM)

Pressurizing the intake overcomes those breathing limitations up to a certain point. one or two pounds of boost will make a surprizing difference on one of these cars. Figure at least 15 hp per pound of boost for the first few, then the increase starts to drop off. By the time you get over 5 psi you are prolly only going to be gaining around 10 hp max per pound of boost increase, maybe a little less. Above 7 the increase drops off more due to the efficiency of the turbo system and the heat of compression and the head design.

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Well said (though I'm not sure about that 15HP/lb boost)! When I first started messing with turbo's some 35years ago, an engineer at Garret advised me that the most noticeable gains are the first 3 or 4 lbs boost, and that for a street car, that's usually plenty good enough. Go more, and things start getting increasingly more complex. As for intercooling.......low boost levels keep the heat of the intake charge low as well, so you can run comfortably without one (they are advantageous though). Another tip I got from a local Indy competitor way back when, was to not bring the boost in at too low an RPM, as it puts a tremendous amount of load dwell at poor rod angles.

This (to me) all centers around what you expect, and what you want coupled with a good measure of reality. If you want to build a techno wonder with all the (expensive) components and systems, it is do-able. If you don't want to go HP crazy, a nice safe and affordable system is very possible, IMHO.

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nsyr   turbo performance   Jun 3 2004, 04:47 PM
Mueller   so far no one has stepped up to the plate and dyno...   Jun 3 2004, 05:02 PM
fiid   "Everyone knows you can't turbo a type IV" I ...   Jun 3 2004, 05:03 PM
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fiid   It's not really easier - it just gives a real ...   Jun 3 2004, 05:09 PM
Mueller   you suck !!! hahahaha I'll be hap...   Jun 3 2004, 05:11 PM
fiid   Dude - I totally regret not returning your call -t...   Jun 3 2004, 05:18 PM
Mark Henry   Mueller, did you see what the monoball guy does on...   Jun 3 2004, 05:24 PM
Mueller   Hey Mark, no, I have not seen those SS rings befor...   Jun 3 2004, 05:33 PM
nsyr   i am considering the suby engine too. it wouldn...   Jun 3 2004, 05:35 PM
Eric_Shea   You can't put a Subaru engine in a 914 :lol:   Jun 3 2004, 06:13 PM
fiid   I can tell you that a 280Hp Subaru engine in a 914...   Jun 3 2004, 06:24 PM
Jake Raby   Hell, if my plots work out the way they are in sim...   Jun 3 2004, 09:18 PM
fiid   Jake - do you think the exiswting head attachment ...   Jun 4 2004, 12:12 AM
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Jake Raby   The studs that come with Nickies should hold about...   Jun 4 2004, 12:51 AM
fiid     Jun 4 2004, 12:54 AM
Jake Raby   Stock Type IV heads do not compliment a Turbo... ...   Jun 4 2004, 12:59 AM
Sammy   I really got to ask, did that person who told you ...   Jun 4 2004, 09:54 AM
andys   I wonder how many folks here actually have driven ...   Jun 4 2004, 10:37 AM
Jake Raby   I have never ridden in a 914 with a Turbo, but I h...   Jun 4 2004, 10:42 AM
Sammy   My best guess is that with the crap they call pump...   Jun 4 2004, 11:50 AM
Jake Raby   The stock intake port is amazing! The type IV ...   Jun 4 2004, 12:26 PM
lapuwali   I'd think intercooling was essential with an a...   Jun 4 2004, 12:34 PM
andys     Jun 4 2004, 01:31 PM
Sammy   Intercoolers are not magic, they are just like mos...   Jun 4 2004, 02:53 PM
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fiid   I think there is some truth to what my source is s...   Jun 4 2004, 05:35 PM


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