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> Very Rough, Low Idle and Missing - Help!, 73 D-Jet - SOLVED!
ThinAir
post Aug 22 2012, 11:08 PM
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RRC is only a couple of weeks away and I'm beginning to get desperate that I'm not going to be able to drive my 914.

When I posted this, my problem was just that the idle would hunt, but otherwise it drove well. After reading the responses and reviewing Brad Anders' stuff again it made sense that my hunting problem was probably that I was just running lean. I turned the ECU 3 clicks clockwise to see if that would improve things, but it didn't seem to.

Well, things have gone from poor to bad. Right now I've got a car that barely idles at all, and when I'm accelerating or driving on the highway it often bucks/misfires. I haven't run it long enough to get it warmed up. I've tested the AAR by pulling the supply hose and it seems to be working. If I remove the AAR output hose the RPMs go up to 1000 so perhaps the AAR isn't opening fully.

I've measured the ohms on the CHT at 124 so that's within range, and I've got a brand new 270 ohm resistor inline. I have 3 MPS units that all pass on resistance and vacuum and changing them makes no difference in the behavior. I've also recently replaced the spark plug wires (not to solve this problem, but just because) and I've made sure that they are as far away as possible from the MPS unit. I've also checked every electrical connection that I can find.

Sorry that all that is so long - any clue what I should be looking at? I'm beginning to panic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Aug 23 2012, 08:31 AM
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The bucking and misfiring at speed might be the contacts in the TPS, if they're worn might need to move them to a better path and adjust it. Helped on mine with similar problem. Good luck.

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post Aug 24 2012, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(jsconst @ Aug 23 2012, 06:31 AM) *

The bucking and misfiring at speed might be the contacts in the TPS, if they're worn might need to move them to a better path and adjust it. Helped on mine with similar problem. Good luck.

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I agree with checking the contacts at the TPS. I had this gremlin for a while and was checking things in the engine compartment with the engine running. I bumped the wires leading to the TPS and the idle improved. I unplugged the cable wiped the contacts and have been good for years. Good luck.
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(Michael N @ Aug 24 2012, 07:31 AM) *

QUOTE(jsconst @ Aug 23 2012, 06:31 AM) *

The bucking and misfiring at speed might be the contacts in the TPS, if they're worn might need to move them to a better path and adjust it. Helped on mine with similar problem. Good luck.

Jeff


I agree with checking the contacts at the TPS. I had this gremlin for a while and was checking things in the engine compartment with the engine running. I bumped the wires leading to the TPS and the idle improved. I unplugged the cable wiped the contacts and have been good for years. Good luck.

When writing that novel-length post last night, I forgot to mention that the TPS board was replaced last year with a unit from one of the board members. The connection to the TPS is one of the things I've checked, but I haven't tested with the wire pulled off. Also, I'm running the same Pertronix that I've run for ages.

This morning's behavior was somewhat surprising. Air temperature is mid-50s. When I start the car it idles at about 900 (not higher like it should since the AAR should be open) and it drives smoothly. About 10 minutes into my 20 minute commute it starts hunting when I stop for a red light and I feel a couple of slight bucks when driving, but nothing like what I had previously experienced. Even the hunting behavior seemed to go away within a couple of minutes. If it had run like this all along I probably wouldn't even have been looking for a problem.
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ThinAir   Very Rough, Low Idle and Missing - Help!   Aug 22 2012, 11:08 PM
tim_nd   Have you pulled and inspected your plugs?   Aug 22 2012, 11:28 PM
ThinAir   Have you pulled and inspected your plugs? That...   Aug 22 2012, 11:39 PM
hot_shoe914   Check the points to while you are at it.   Aug 23 2012, 07:04 AM
Philip W.   Check the points to while you are at it. :agree...   Aug 23 2012, 07:56 AM
jsconst   The bucking and misfiring at speed might be the co...   Aug 23 2012, 08:31 AM
Michael N   The bucking and misfiring at speed might be the c...   Aug 24 2012, 08:31 AM
ThinAir   The bucking and misfiring at speed might be the ...   Aug 24 2012, 09:19 AM
ThinAir   Update: Tonight I pulled all the spark plugs, chec...   Aug 24 2012, 12:33 AM
Bartlett 914   I suspect you may have some bad gas.   Aug 24 2012, 09:06 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Unplug the tps. If it runs better, contact davesp...   Aug 24 2012, 09:35 AM
jsayre914   Unplug the tps. If it runs better, contact daves...   Aug 24 2012, 12:09 PM
StratPlayer   I got a new board from dave and it doesn't fun...   Aug 24 2012, 10:12 AM
jsayre914   p.s. I am dealing with the similar issues, my car...   Aug 24 2012, 12:12 PM
tim_nd   Go ahead and replace your plugs with some freshy...   Aug 24 2012, 12:32 PM
tim_nd   I also had slight misses at idle. I replaced the ...   Aug 24 2012, 12:48 PM
Philip W.   I suspect you may have some bad gas. Bad Gas is ...   Aug 24 2012, 02:04 PM
shoguneagle   Ernie, Thought I would drop into your thread and ...   Aug 24 2012, 05:51 PM
76-914   :confused: any news?   Aug 26 2012, 03:35 PM
ThinAir   Well the news is that I keep eliminating things so...   Aug 28 2012, 12:14 AM
76-914   That fuel filter isn't that difficult to R...   Aug 28 2012, 07:55 AM
ThinAir   WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!...   Aug 28 2012, 10:43 PM
Philip W.   Great news, i am not surprised. I have chased my t...   Aug 29 2012, 06:48 AM
ThinAir   One more thing.... I'm still running the 012 ...   Aug 28 2012, 10:51 PM
AZ914   Awesome Ernie! :Qarl:   Aug 29 2012, 07:46 AM
76-914   :thumbsup:   Aug 29 2012, 08:29 AM


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