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| pcar916 |
Dec 29 2011, 07:27 AM
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Is that a Lola? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,524 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None
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How many of you are using gear pumps instead of diaphragm types and what filter element (micron) sizes are you using?
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| pcar916 |
Sep 18 2012, 09:44 AM
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Is that a Lola? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,524 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None
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Ok, since I haven't seen an answer to this noisy-pump issue....
Considering how loud even rotary pumps are in a car with most or all of the sound deadening removed, I'd bet the pump is just fine. Every one of the diaphragm pumps I've used (some in fuel applications) is the same way. I'd run it and listen for anything that changes. If I'm right about that car's usage you aren't running it more than two hours at a time, which is the Tilton time limit they state as the outside (per a Tilton vendor I talked to while deciding on a pump). On that point. If anyone can point to documentation about that I'd like to actually see it in writing. Preferably tied to operating-temperature limits. Have you learned anything different? |
| moggy |
Sep 18 2012, 05:01 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 15-December 04 From: Wales Member No.: 3,285 |
Ok, since I haven't seen an answer to this noisy-pump issue.... Considering how loud even rotary pumps are in a car with most or all of the sound deadening removed, I'd bet the pump is just fine. Every one of the diaphragm pumps I've used (some in fuel applications) is the same way. I'd run it and listen for anything that changes. If I'm right about that car's usage you aren't running it more than two hours at a time, which is the Tilton time limit they state as the outside (per a Tilton vendor I talked to while deciding on a pump). On that point. If anyone can point to documentation about that I'd like to actually see it in writing. Preferably tied to operating-temperature limits. Have you learned anything different? This has been a REALLY useful thread guys. Thanks. I am just about to go down this route of cooler and spray bars on my gearbox after experiencing the same problems mentioned in this post, I.e. difficult shifting once the box starts to get real hot and now the synchro for second is needing replacement. I have the same causes - spirited driving (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) with lots of shifting due to the nature of rallying and the shorter gears (4th is now my 5th), powerful engine, Guard LSD, and to make matters a lot worse.... A skid plate. That last part basically stops any decent air flow cooling the box down and worse... Keeps the heat from the exhaust reflected back up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) cooking the gearbox. Anyway.... My concern is regarding the choice of pump to go for. The Tilton says it should only be used For intermittent use, I think it was mentioned here, no more than 2 hours constant use. I was wondering if the RB Racing pump has the same limitation? 2 hours constant use is sorta ok but longer would be a lot better with my application. My plan is (was) to wire it up to the fuel pump 12v supply so it comes on with the ignition. |
| pcar916 |
Sep 18 2012, 05:21 PM
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Is that a Lola? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,524 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None
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I was wondering if the RB Racing pump has the same limitation? 2 hours constant use is sorta ok but longer would be a lot better with my application The RB Racing pump is constant-duty so run it until the cows come home. It's interesting that Mocal now sells the RB Racing pump for about $25 more than RB does directly. |
pcar916 Transaxle oil cooler pumps Dec 29 2011, 07:27 AM
stugray I was a little interested in this as well.
When in... Dec 29 2011, 06:12 PM
Brett W Gear pumps are light years better than the diaphra... Dec 29 2011, 08:02 PM
Richard Casto I think this is an interesting topic as well. You... Dec 29 2011, 08:24 PM
stewteral
How many of you are using gear pumps instead of d... Dec 30 2011, 12:22 AM
pcar916 Gosh, I just typed in responses for the last 30 mi... Dec 30 2011, 05:51 AM
stewteral
Gosh, I just typed in responses for the last 30 m... Dec 30 2011, 10:37 PM
pcar916 Now in order of the questions.
I considered posti... Dec 31 2011, 06:03 AM
Richard Casto Continues to be a great thread! Keep posting ... Dec 31 2011, 09:30 PM
Downunderman On my 2.7 I am using a sportomatic pump driven off... Dec 31 2011, 12:12 PM
pcar916
... and pressure feed the input shaft bearing thr... Jan 2 2012, 02:38 PM
john rogers When I added the pump and cooler setup to the race... Dec 31 2011, 07:22 PM
pcar916 Looks nice. Is the Tilton constant duty?
I talke... Dec 31 2011, 08:27 PM
john rogers Most of the sprayers I saw installed had one nozzl... Jan 2 2012, 08:18 PM
pcar916
... never to spray the oil into the R/P mesh as i... Jan 3 2012, 07:10 AM
Richard Casto
I always understood the mesh squirter was a bad i... Jan 3 2012, 07:45 AM
pcar916
I would love to see what it looks like inside a t... Jan 3 2012, 09:55 AM
Downunderman The oil feed for the input shaft bearing is throug... Jan 3 2012, 11:38 AM
john rogers Well the R&P question pops up again as I suspe... Jan 3 2012, 06:35 PM
Richard Casto
Well the R&P question pops up again as I susp... Jan 3 2012, 08:47 PM
pcar916 Now there's some empirical data. John, what wa... Jan 3 2012, 10:04 PM
john rogers Good question about the oiling of gear assemblies ... Jan 4 2012, 11:06 AM
pcar916 Aftermarket (billet) side plates are available for... Jan 4 2012, 01:03 PM
john rogers Well, for various HP ratings, Black Forest in San ... Jan 4 2012, 05:23 PM
pcar916
... 220 to 300 HP use a cooler and rebuild at the... Jan 5 2012, 06:29 PM
ottox914 The location of the pump will make a difference. G... Jan 5 2012, 07:37 PM
pcar916
Gear drive pumps... need a gravity feed- they won... Jan 5 2012, 08:10 PM
john rogers You are correct about the "gear" pump an... Jan 6 2012, 11:41 AM
pcar916
... We would then filter the trans fluid...
How... Jan 6 2012, 12:49 PM
john rogers In the pictures I posted there is a bright red fil... Jan 6 2012, 02:40 PM
pcar916 I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the ... Jan 14 2012, 11:04 AM
Randal
I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the... Jan 20 2012, 08:36 PM

pcar916
What is the breakdown of the $308 and do you... Jan 20 2012, 10:19 PM
stewteral
I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the... Jan 20 2012, 11:47 PM
pcar916
I MUST. As I put in an earlier post temps on the... Jan 21 2012, 08:28 AM
john rogers Did you give Patrick in Phoenix a call although th... Jan 14 2012, 10:30 PM
pcar916 I didn't give Patrick a call because I already... Jan 15 2012, 10:34 AM
john rogers Generally those pumps can handle the gear oil temp... Jan 15 2012, 08:04 PM
pcar916
... or you park on a very steep downhill grade al... Jan 18 2012, 11:29 AM
john rogers The temp setup Patrick sells uses the speedo hole.... Jan 18 2012, 12:29 PM
Racer Chris I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in m... Jan 21 2012, 07:23 AM
stewteral
I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in ... Jan 21 2012, 12:29 PM
Randal
I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in ... Jan 21 2012, 12:47 PM
J P Stein
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It would be hard to believe that the transmiss... Jan 21 2012, 01:06 PM
Randal
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It would be hard to believe that the transmis... Jan 21 2012, 09:19 PM
Racer Chris
So is it the fluid losing capability or the metal... Jan 21 2012, 10:00 PM
J P Stein I'm with Chris on this.
Porsche's syncro ... Jan 22 2012, 11:04 AM
john rogers For the temps question, I found with my trans temp... Jan 26 2012, 12:04 AM
pcar916 The simplest plumb... in, out, and a vent to the c... Jan 30 2012, 05:45 PM
pcar916 Finally time for an update. I forced myself off of... Jul 10 2012, 11:19 AM
pcar916 The engine compartment plumbed and the temperature... Jul 10 2012, 11:23 AM
396 Thanks for sharing. Great looking set up Jul 24 2012, 07:47 PM
brant Chris,
my race trans builder switched me over t... Jul 24 2012, 10:18 PM
pcar916 Thanks, I've done all I can to make sure it st... Jul 25 2012, 09:21 AM
naro914 I am planning to do something similar. Been taking... Aug 15 2012, 08:01 AM
pcar916 This geared pump has no trouble at all pumping eve... Aug 16 2012, 09:54 AM
naro914 Guys,
For those using the Tilton pump, how noisy i... Aug 30 2012, 02:01 PM
naro914 I hadn't heard that the Tilton had a 2 hour du... Sep 18 2012, 05:51 PM
pcar916
I hadn't heard that the Tilton had a 2 hour d... Sep 18 2012, 09:12 PM
pcar916 Double post deleted... Sep 19 2012, 03:06 PM
brant I finished my complete install and will be testing... Sep 18 2012, 08:56 PM
brant I added pictures of my finished cooler install int... Sep 19 2012, 06:55 PM
moggy
I added pictures of my finished cooler install in... Sep 20 2012, 04:55 AM
moggy
I added pictures of my finished cooler install in... Sep 27 2012, 01:37 PM
brant things went really well
I did not play with differ... Sep 27 2012, 10:52 PM
moggy
things went really well
I did not play with diffe... Sep 28 2012, 01:38 PM
pcar916 Nice build Brant. Specs on that pump from your pix... Sep 20 2012, 07:28 AM
moggy Hey, Ron. What was the part number of the pump you... Sep 20 2012, 02:45 PM
pcar916
Hey, Ron. What was the part number of the pump yo... Sep 20 2012, 03:53 PM
mrbubblehead Hi, great thread. I am gathering the pieces now fo... Jan 10 2013, 08:52 PM
moggy
Hi, great thread. I am gathering the pieces now f... Jan 11 2013, 03:33 PM
mrbubblehead Thank you for the photos. What I am really after a... Jan 11 2013, 08:10 PM
moggy
Thank you for the photos. What I am really after ... Jan 12 2013, 10:10 AM
brant I agree with Moogy.
limited slip differentials cre... Jan 12 2013, 12:16 PM![]() ![]() |
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