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> Single Carb Getting Better But not There Yet, OVER IT! Went with Dual 44s
Mblizzard
post Mar 17 2013, 01:39 PM
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Yea it is kind of a waste (Weber 36/38 DVG) but I have a number of projects that are sucking up $$$ so I am trying to make it a while with this set up. Had a huge stumble before changing to the 60s on the Accelerator jets. The stumble is mostly gone now. Waiting for a 70 to come in. But while its better, it seems to not want to idle. Regardless of how I try to adjust it acorroding to the instructions, it seems to want to die. At anything above idle it seems to be fine. The problem was there before the change but it was no better after. Did a good cleaning on everything else but did not change anything other than the accelerator diaphram. One thing I noticed is that fuel seems to be dripping into the primary. I am not sure if it was like this before as I had not looked in.

I am assuming this is not normal, so any thoughts on what I goofed up?
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post Mar 18 2013, 06:35 PM
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0) Set ignition dwell & timing first.

1) Idle Speed Screw: 1 turn open from *just* touching the tab

2) Idle Volume Screw (sometimes wrongly called the "Idle Mixture screw"): 2 turns out from LIGHTLY bottomed.

3) Start Engine

4) Adjust Idle Volume to highest idle speed while counting the turns or partial turns from the lightly bottomed position. Btwn 1-3/4 turns to 2-1/4 turns is where you want to be.
If more than 2-1/4 turns then Idle Jet is Lean - Increase jet size.
If less than 1-3/4 turns then Idle Jet is rich - Decrease Jet size.

5) Mains should start to drip out of the booster venturis at 3500 RPM
If the RPM is higher the Jets are too small. (See note on Air Corrector Jets)
If RPM is lower then the jets are too big. (See note on Air Corrector Jets)

Air Corrector Jets:
I do not have any simple way to tune these. They are modifiers of the range of the main jets & too a lesser degree the Idle jets. Air Jets have a progressively increasing (leaning) effect as the RPM's increase. And being that they are air jets, the larger they are the leaner the given mixture. It is possible to have two main jet & air jet combo's 'tip-in' at the same engine speed, and perform totally differently.
They can also be used, once your jetting is satisfactory, for altitude correction. There's a Rule Thumb that for every 2000 feet in altitude you can reduce the Air Corrector one size, but every engine will be a little different. Let experience by your guide here.

Emulsion Tubes:
They are located under the Air Corrector Jets. These are a black art. They are numbered in sequence of mfg, not progressively. An F4 preceeds an F5, but while an F4 might be nearly perfect for a 275 GT SWB Lusso V12 Ferrari, the F5 might have been developed for a 995cc Mini engine.
You will have to hope that the seller of your carb set it up with the correct Emulsion Tubes & leave them alone until you become an advanced Weber tuning guru.

Some Off Road specific notes:
If you live in an area where you can do away with the choke it behooves you to do so. The choke linkage is a dirt leakage path that is hard to totally seal off. I use regular J-B Weld for modifying carbs. The carb absolutely has to be clean for the J-B to stick. Over time the pressed-in plugs in the body can work loose. I put a dab of J-B on each and every plug, being sure to completely cover the plug and a little of the surrounding carb body. I use J-B to plug off all of the various ports & what-not associated with the removed choke.

And now the biggie, Float Bowl Vent mod:
The bowl vent, as delivered, is very suseptable to allowing slosh to enter the venturis. Which make the engine go really rich and blubber.
A note of caution on this mod: it is not a very complicated mod, but it does offer the opportunity to mangle the carb beyond use if not done right. If you need to be shown where the vents are, this is not a mod you should be doing. Proceed at own risk, I accept no responsibility for any mishaps
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Mblizzard   Single Carb Getting Better But not There Yet   Mar 17 2013, 01:39 PM
rhodyguy   the CB book doesn't list yours but does show a...   Mar 17 2013, 02:30 PM
Mblizzard   I will have to check the number I went on memory. ...   Mar 17 2013, 03:08 PM
struckn   Float struck Open? Fuel pressure?   Mar 17 2013, 03:10 PM
Mblizzard   Had not thought of the float. I checked before re...   Mar 17 2013, 04:02 PM
kg6dxn   Do you have this???   Mar 17 2013, 05:09 PM
Mblizzard   No I don't have that. Thanks. More readin...   Mar 17 2013, 07:05 PM
vw505   My Webpage 0) Set ignition dwell & timing fir...   Mar 18 2013, 06:35 PM
vw505   Thats an old post from a vw page but i have used i...   Mar 18 2013, 06:37 PM
Mblizzard   Wow that is some great information. I just quickl...   Mar 18 2013, 08:07 PM
Spoke   For the loss of idle, do you have any intake leaks...   Mar 19 2013, 06:56 AM
Mblizzard   I have checked extensively for vacuum leaks but ha...   Mar 19 2013, 07:39 AM
vw505   the rear throttle plate should be fully closed, no...   Mar 19 2013, 02:07 PM
9146986   A couple things I'll add: Make sure the advan...   Mar 19 2013, 07:36 PM
Mblizzard   The advance is working and I am running the Hot Sp...   Mar 19 2013, 08:00 PM
Mblizzard   OK I am beaten! Maybe it is just me but I hav...   Mar 25 2013, 01:20 PM
'73-914kid   what size motor do you have? those 44's are pr...   Mar 25 2013, 01:43 PM
Mblizzard   I hope they are not too big. I have a 1.8 with a ...   Mar 25 2013, 03:51 PM
'73-914kid   the general consensus is that the 44's are too...   Mar 25 2013, 04:07 PM
Mblizzard   Got them through Redline. The may not have shippe...   Mar 25 2013, 04:18 PM
Vacca Rabite   Get the 40s. You can get 44s to work but you will...   Mar 25 2013, 04:20 PM
Mblizzard   Not sure I want only a "top end" motor. ...   Mar 25 2013, 05:20 PM
Vacca Rabite   You can choke the 44s down to 40 levels, but you s...   Mar 25 2013, 06:14 PM
SirAndy   I changed to 40s and had a much better rev range. ...   Mar 25 2013, 08:32 PM
Mblizzard   Maybe Art can turn the 43s into 40s. I will contac...   Mar 25 2013, 07:46 PM
monkeyboy   44's are way too big. 40's would be better...   Mar 26 2013, 08:51 AM
Chris H.   Are you changing the cam?   Mar 26 2013, 08:56 AM
Mblizzard   It already has a carb cam. Zach took your suggesti...   Mar 26 2013, 09:38 AM
Vacca Rabite   Do as Art says. If I had I would hav spent a lot ...   Mar 26 2013, 10:20 AM
DBCooper   You might have asked Art how much to set up the 44...   Mar 26 2013, 11:02 AM
mr914   I've used the DGAV carbs for 20 years F5 emul...   Mar 26 2013, 11:15 AM
Mblizzard   I have a call into Dave to talk about the best app...   Mar 26 2013, 12:29 PM
SirAndy   Do you have a recommendation for a rotary pump? CB...   Mar 26 2013, 12:43 PM
SirAndy   http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetail...roduc...   Mar 26 2013, 12:44 PM
DBCooper   +1. Saves you a few bucks on the separate pres...   Mar 26 2013, 03:09 PM
Mblizzard   After talking with ACE it seems like there is not ...   Mar 27 2013, 02:39 PM
DBCooper   Huh. Well, if there's no difference in cost g...   Mar 27 2013, 09:42 PM
rhodyguy   something like these. versatile.   Mar 27 2013, 10:48 PM


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