|
|

|
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.
This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way. Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners. |
|
|
| Porschef |
Apr 10 2013, 07:05 PM
Post
#1
|
|
How you doin' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,180 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States
|
Well, it seems that the constant reoccurrence of an exhaust leak stemmed from a pulling exhaust stud. I'd tighten it, the noise would go away, come back, rinse, repeat.
A couple of weeks ago I took her out for a spin, heard that sound, and got under after cooling to see what the deal was. A quarter turn later, the stud dropped right out. So I'm gonna do an EZLOK insert, and pray. Pics to follow, along with any tips, snags, or bonifide cuss sessions. The fun never ends Right Joe? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) |
![]() ![]() |
| ThePaintedMan |
Apr 10 2013, 08:45 PM
Post
#2
|
|
Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,887 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
|
Don't let anyone fool you, it's not that hard. I did three at once. Mark the bit depth, and drill at the exact same angle the original stud was at. If you can, use some kind of drilling lubricant - Harbor Freight sells a good foaming kind that won't drip out.
I know that others here have far more experience than I do, but personally, I wouldn't worry about the step stud. If THAT one pulls out, you won't have enough aluminum left to tap the hole for a Time-Sert/EZ Lok. If you install a Time-Sert (which I would recommend) the first time correctly, with red Locktite, you won't have to do this job again later. Sounds intuitive, but some may not know this - you must remove the heat exchanger first so you can see what you're doing. |
| Rand |
Apr 10 2013, 10:13 PM
Post
#3
|
|
Cross Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,414 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Don't let anyone fool you, it's not that hard. I did three at once. Mark the bit depth, and drill at the exact same angle the original stud was at. If you can, use some kind of drilling lubricant - Harbor Freight sells a good foaming kind that won't drip out. I know that others here have far more experience than I do, but personally, I wouldn't worry about the step stud. If THAT one pulls out, you won't have enough aluminum left to tap the hole for a Time-Sert/EZ Lok. If you install a Time-Sert (which I would recommend) the first time correctly, with red Locktite, you won't have to do this job again later. Sounds intuitive, but some may not know this - you must remove the heat exchanger first so you can see what you're doing. Wait, what? About the step stud? You prefer an insert? With Loctite? Did I hear that right? Oof. Really? That's why I'm not painted. |
| ThePaintedMan |
Apr 11 2013, 07:32 AM
Post
#4
|
|
Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,887 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
|
Wait, what? About the step stud? You prefer an insert? With Loctite? Did I hear that right? Oof. Really? That's why I'm not painted. Sarcasm aside (and I did say that you guys know more than I do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) ), a Time Insert is a stronger and more reliable option. If I remember correctly, several engine builders here have recommended that when heads are rebuilt that Time Serts be installed to avoid future headaches. They are along the same lines as "case savers" for Type 1s, which are installed to prevent case studs from pulling in high HP applications. Aluminum gets brittle as it is heat cycled over and over. If you drill out a stud, re-tap the aluminum and install a step stud, is it not just a matter of time before the step stud pulls out from the same forces that pulled out the initial stud? Finally, if a Time Sert pulls out (which I have not heard of), another can be reinstalled. If a step stud pulls out, the hole will then be large enough that it is doubtful you'll find another step stud large enough at the base, but still small enough at the stem to fit our heat exchangers. Anyway, the point of my original post was to reassure Porschef that if he goes slow and takes the right precautions, it's not as risky as one might think. Drill straight and do NOT drill too deep. You'll be fine. |
Porschef I'm a stud Apr 10 2013, 07:05 PM
Rand A step stud is a solid solution, no prayers needed... Apr 10 2013, 07:14 PM
76-914 drill it in 3 steps i.e. use 3 different sizes wor... Apr 10 2013, 07:17 PM
Rand
drill it in 3 steps i.e. use 3 different sizes wo... Apr 10 2013, 07:28 PM
Porschef Rand,
Thanks for the offer. After getting twist... Apr 10 2013, 07:49 PM
Rand
Rand,
Thanks for the offer. After getting twis... Apr 10 2013, 08:05 PM
worn
I am afraid that Time Certs aren't magic and... Apr 11 2013, 09:56 AM
ThePaintedMan
I am afraid that Time Certs aren't magic and... Apr 11 2013, 10:02 AM
Porschef Yes, heat exchanger is off.. :blink:
I don... Apr 11 2013, 04:35 AM
stugray FWIW - in my business (aerospace) threads directly... Apr 11 2013, 03:57 PM
yeahmag Time Sert is the way to go. I think Aircooled.net ... Apr 11 2013, 04:15 PM
yeahmag http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Time-Sert-Thr...121-p... Apr 11 2013, 04:26 PM
ThePaintedMan Hmm... see, I may be painted, but I'm not craz... Apr 11 2013, 04:49 PM
Porschef Lazy man finally posts pics...
Here's the ho... May 2 2013, 07:56 PM
Chris H. You sir are a stud (repair guy). :beer2: May 3 2013, 07:52 AM
r_towle Very nice.
Is there red locktight on that insert ... May 3 2013, 08:06 AM
stugray I replaced the three exhaust studs that came out d... May 3 2013, 10:24 AM
saigon71 Looks like a fine repair! :beer2: May 3 2013, 05:01 PM
Porschef Rich, yes, there's a loctite type material on ... May 3 2013, 10:37 PM
stugray
Thanks for the tip! I posted a thread about ... May 4 2013, 02:05 PM![]() ![]() |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 2nd April 2026 - 12:16 PM |
| All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002 |
|
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community! We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ... |