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> Brake Bleeding, Calling all witches and warlocks!
McMark
post Jul 4 2004, 02:50 PM
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I still haven't mastered the black art of brake bleeding. Or perhaps bleeding the brakes on 30 year old worn out cars isn't effective. In either case I can't get all the air out of my lines. I've got nice new rebuild calipers and I'd really like to put them to work. What are the tips and tricks? Here's what I've done so far.

1.) Pressure bleeding: I have a spare reservoir cap that I've drilled and put an air fitting in so that I can pressurize the reservoir and push fluid through the system. When I do this right now I get no bubbles. I did notice that one of the lines from the reservoir to the master cylinder has a bad grommet and when I pressurize it leaks from the top of the master cylinder.

2.) Partner method: I've had a partner push the brake pedal while I open and close the lines. This doesn't produce any bubbles either.

3.) Mityvac: I put the Mityvac on and I got a ton of bubbles, but I suspect they were sneaking in around the bleeder screw threads.

4.) Gravity bleeding: This has been the most optimistic method I've used. Just open the bleeder screw and the fluid flows out on its own and usually brings a small bubble or two. I suppose if I did this every day after I drove it I would eventually get them all, but I am really tired of taking all the wheels off.

So now the questions. Am I missing something? Could my master cylinder be bad? It doesn't lose pressure if I press on the pedal, which I though was the sign of a bad master cylinder. Could the leaking reservoir grommet be a problem?
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sgomes
post Jul 4 2004, 04:27 PM
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My 2 cents:

1) I didn't see you mention the proportioning valve. Gotta and I mean GOTTA bleed that sucker.

2) You mentioned a bad gromett on the the MC. If it was bad enough it can siphon air in as the fluid is going by. I'd fix it.

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McMark   Brake Bleeding   Jul 4 2004, 02:50 PM
94teener   Mark, If you have both upper nd lower bleed valv...   Jul 4 2004, 03:08 PM
PatMc   Mark, If you have both upper nd lower bleed val...   Jun 5 2022, 10:25 AM
sgomes   My 2 cents: 1) I didn't see you mention the ...   Jul 4 2004, 04:27 PM
skline   Is there a bleed valve on the MC? I had heard ther...   Jul 4 2004, 04:40 PM
trekkor   Hey Mark, I have one of those 1 man bleeder tools...   Jul 4 2004, 05:09 PM
porsche914blue   I don't trust the Vacuum method too much. Unl...   Jul 4 2004, 06:19 PM
Dominic   Mark, Ditch that prop valve and put a "T" fitting ...   Jul 4 2004, 06:58 PM
Eric_Shea   I've got a "T" fitting if you're intereste...   Jul 4 2004, 07:00 PM
iamchappy   The speed bleeders work great.   Jul 4 2004, 08:26 PM
McMark   I was avoiding the proportioning valve because it ...   Jul 4 2004, 09:15 PM
Lawrence   Mark, I use a combination of the above methods. ...   Jul 4 2004, 11:26 PM
newdeal2   This may be a bit late but you cannot use a vacuum...   Jul 5 2004, 07:05 PM
McMark   Interesting newdeal2! I'm curious why a v...   Jul 5 2004, 07:22 PM
newdeal2   I read it recently in one of the tech articles whe...   Jul 5 2004, 08:05 PM
newdeal2   OK...I found the quote in a tech article as follow...   Jul 5 2004, 08:14 PM
McMark   I did it! I beat it! I conquered! ...   Jul 19 2004, 08:37 PM
trekkor   Good! Now you can come a/x. :driving-girl: M...   Jul 19 2004, 08:48 PM
McMark   Hell yeah!   Jul 19 2004, 08:49 PM
sgomes   Mark, I really like that idea you have in Item #3...   Jul 19 2004, 10:47 PM
tedg04   Resurrecting the dead here, but I wanted to say th...   Jun 4 2022, 07:10 PM
bkrantz   I also add some big stomping on the brake pedal, w...   Jun 4 2022, 08:53 PM
Costa05   Bleeding mine was challenging too. The final thing...   Jun 4 2022, 09:17 PM
mgp4591   A small mallet is always useful. Tapping gently se...   Jun 5 2022, 01:12 AM
mlindner   I've had best luck with helper, three hard pu...   Jun 5 2022, 07:46 AM
mgphoto   The proportion valve is the problem, it is not rea...   Jun 5 2022, 09:52 AM


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