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> Heat Exchanger to head nut torque
jmalone
post May 22 2013, 09:53 PM
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Can anyone confirm the torque figures for the heat exchanger to head nuts? I have initial torque at 7.3 ft/lb and final torque at 24.5 ft/lb.
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stugray
post May 23 2013, 09:40 AM
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I just went through this entire process:

1 - replaced all exhaust studs (Manufactured my own 8mm studs before removing the old and found out that all of my stud holes had been tapped out to 9mm).
2 - ordered new 9X8mm step studs from www.belmetric.com
3 - extracted all old studs with stud extractor tool from Sears ( the kind that pound on over the studs and acts like a bolt head)
4 - Installed all new studs to find that they all have a slight bend to them, so they need to be clocked right or the HE dont fit over them
5 - threw aside the stupid copper plated exhaust nuts from pelican parts because the flange on the bottom of the nut would not clear the side of the HE stubs. (actually accidentally bought TWO whole bags of them - anybody want some?)
6 - Bought 8mm "JIS Nuts" from Ace. They are smaller barrels so a 12mm socket will fit.
7 - Used SS washers under nuts (some had to be ground to fit in the small space)
8 - STILL had to grind off the side of a 12mm 6 point socket to have enough clearance from the side of the HE for the socket to fit down.
9- torqued all nuts to 14 ft-lbs
10- installed second set of nuts to lock the first set in place.

If I could have found SS JIS nuts, I would have used those.

HTH - Stu
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post May 23 2013, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ May 23 2013, 08:40 AM) *

I just went through this entire process:

1 - replaced all exhaust studs (Manufactured my own 8mm studs before removing the old and found out that all of my stud holes had been tapped out to 9mm).
2 - ordered new 9X8mm step studs from www.belmetric.com
3 - extracted all old studs with stud extractor tool from Sears ( the kind that pound on over the studs and acts like a bolt head)
4 - Installed all new studs to find that they all have a slight bend to them, so they need to be clocked right or the HE dont fit over them
5 - threw aside the stupid copper plated exhaust nuts from pelican parts because the flange on the bottom of the nut would not clear the side of the HE stubs. (actually accidentally bought TWO whole bags of them - anybody want some?)
6 - Bought 8mm "JIS Nuts" from Ace. They are smaller barrels so a 12mm socket will fit.
7 - Used SS washers under nuts (some had to be ground to fit in the small space)
8 - STILL had to grind off the side of a 12mm 6 point socket to have enough clearance from the side of the HE for the socket to fit down.
9- torqued all nuts to 14 ft-lbs
10- installed second set of nuts to lock the first set in place.

If I could have found SS JIS nuts, I would have used those.

HTH - Stu

It is debatable, but stainless exhaust hardware is probably not as good as regular steel. Stainless expands more with heat so they are more likely to loosen over time. It can gall both itself or regular steel more easily. Also, unless you use ARP nuts, typical stainless nuts are probably equivalent to grade 3 .

The problem with using 2 nuts on an exhaust stud is that you can't reach the 'inner' one to hold it from turning taking the exhaust off, and the 'outer' one will want too drag it, ruining the stud thread.
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jmalone   Heat Exchanger to head nut torque   May 22 2013, 09:53 PM
bandjoey   Too late tonight to look it up and someone will ge...   May 22 2013, 11:41 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   The torque value is not printed anywhere. Use onl...   May 23 2013, 05:01 AM
jmalone   The torque value is not printed anywhere. Use on...   May 23 2013, 09:17 AM
CG-914   The torque value is not printed anywhere. Use on...   May 25 2013, 10:45 PM
nathansnathan   For a bus they give it 16 (oops, 14 )foot lbs. The...   May 23 2013, 09:19 AM
nathansnathan   dbl posted   May 23 2013, 09:19 AM
stugray   I just went through this entire process: 1 - repl...   May 23 2013, 09:40 AM
nathansnathan   I just went through this entire process: 1 - rep...   May 23 2013, 11:17 AM
Tom   By using anti-seize on the threads, you have now m...   May 23 2013, 12:12 PM
cary   By using anti-seize on the threads, you have now ...   May 24 2013, 06:05 AM
Marty Yeoman   Last time I did this I used McMark's patented ...   May 23 2013, 01:13 PM
Kraftwerk   Last time I did this I used McMark's patented...   May 23 2013, 02:02 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Last time I did this I used McMark's patente...   Oct 23 2013, 02:14 PM
porsche913b_sp   Last time I did this I used McMark's patented...   May 23 2013, 11:08 PM
euro911   Last time I did this I used McMark's patented ...   Oct 22 2013, 11:13 PM
Haudiosolutions   Thought I'd toss in a find, I too just went th...   May 24 2013, 06:45 PM
CG-914   :popcorn:   May 24 2013, 11:01 PM
Bob L.   I did find this... http://www.tunacan.net/t4/refer...   May 25 2013, 11:24 PM
bandjoey   Why do you anneal? What does Annealing do to the ...   Oct 23 2013, 08:31 AM
Dave_Darling   Annealing makes the copper "dead soft". ...   Oct 23 2013, 08:54 AM
jimkelly   I've seen a thread where the guy took a long f...   Oct 23 2013, 03:16 PM
rhodyguy   light, even dressing with a big bastard file is pr...   Oct 24 2013, 06:10 AM
nathansnathan   Also, you have to take off a much from the tops of...   Oct 24 2013, 06:39 AM
rhodyguy   usually the first pass with the file shows how muc...   Oct 24 2013, 06:51 AM


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