Seized No one main bearing, But also found this |
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Seized No one main bearing, But also found this |
jeffdon |
Jul 14 2013, 12:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 15 2013, 09:05 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Wait a minute. You snapped the cam because the oil pump was 180 out? Not likely. There is no "right" way to install the OP, as long as the tab lines up with the slot in the camshaft. The tab on the shaft is centered, and will fit 2 ways. Sounds to me like you used a T1 pump to "get better oil pressure". We can see how well THAT worked, huh?
Krusty's Back! The Cap'n |
Mark Henry |
Jul 15 2013, 11:10 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Wait a minute. You snapped the cam because the oil pump was 180 out? Not likely. There is no "right" way to install the OP, as long as the tab lines up with the slot in the camshaft. The tab on the shaft is centered, and will fit 2 ways. Sounds to me like you used a T1 pump to "get better oil pressure". We can see how well THAT worked, huh? Krusty's Back! The Cap'n I would imagine he means upside down. Pound in a T4 pump upside down and you would get the same result. I've used type one pumps for years with never an issue, but then I have have always modified and installed them correctly. Is that a steel or AL cover? |
jeffdon |
Jul 15 2013, 11:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
Wait a minute. You snapped the cam because the oil pump was 180 out? Not likely. There is no "right" way to install the OP, as long as the tab lines up with the slot in the camshaft. The tab on the shaft is centered, and will fit 2 ways. Sounds to me like you used a T1 pump to "get better oil pressure". We can see how well THAT worked, huh? Krusty's Back! The Cap'n I would imagine he means upside down. Pound in a T4 pump upside down and you would get the same result. I've used type one pumps for years with never an issue, but then I have have always modified and installed them correctly. Is that a steel or AL cover? Aluminum cover. Yeah, I did the grinding down of the tang on the pump trick. It does NOT bottom out in the cam gear. |
Mark Henry |
Jul 15 2013, 11:49 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Wait a minute. You snapped the cam because the oil pump was 180 out? Not likely. There is no "right" way to install the OP, as long as the tab lines up with the slot in the camshaft. The tab on the shaft is centered, and will fit 2 ways. Sounds to me like you used a T1 pump to "get better oil pressure". We can see how well THAT worked, huh? Krusty's Back! The Cap'n I would imagine he means upside down. Pound in a T4 pump upside down and you would get the same result. I've used type one pumps for years with never an issue, but then I have have always modified and installed them correctly. Is that a steel or AL cover? Aluminum cover. Yeah, I did the grinding down of the tang on the pump trick. It does NOT bottom out in the cam gear. Al covers are junk. Did you also check the clearance on the drive part of the pump body and for cam bolt clearance? |
jeffdon |
Jul 15 2013, 11:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
Wait a minute. You snapped the cam because the oil pump was 180 out? Not likely. There is no "right" way to install the OP, as long as the tab lines up with the slot in the camshaft. The tab on the shaft is centered, and will fit 2 ways. Sounds to me like you used a T1 pump to "get better oil pressure". We can see how well THAT worked, huh? Krusty's Back! The Cap'n I would imagine he means upside down. Pound in a T4 pump upside down and you would get the same result. I've used type one pumps for years with never an issue, but then I have have always modified and installed them correctly. Is that a steel or AL cover? Aluminum cover. Yeah, I did the grinding down of the tang on the pump trick. It does NOT bottom out in the cam gear. Al covers are junk. Did you also check the clearance on the drive part of the pump body and for cam bolt clearance? What other cover options do I have? |
Mark Henry |
Jul 15 2013, 01:09 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
What other cover options do I have? Type one isn't as easy as sticking in a pump The cam gear needs to be clearanced. The cam bolts needs to be clearanced. The pump body needs to be clearanced. If you are using the stock filter console you need to match port the outlet. Then you have double check everything again. The cover needs to be steel. |
jeffdon |
Jul 15 2013, 01:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
What other cover options do I have? Type one isn't as easy as sticking in a pump The cam gear needs to be clearanced. The cam bolts needs to be clearanced. The pump body needs to be clearanced. If you are using the stock filter console you need to match port the outlet. Then you have double check everything again. The cover needs to be steel. Supposedly this pump is specifically for type 4, but obviously, the bolts and or body did indeed need clearancing. When you say clearance the gear, you mean so the bolts sit lower in relation to the gear facing? |
Mark Henry |
Jul 15 2013, 01:31 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
What other cover options do I have? Type one isn't as easy as sticking in a pump The cam gear needs to be clearanced. The cam bolts needs to be clearanced. The pump body needs to be clearanced. If you are using the stock filter console you need to match port the outlet. Then you have double check everything again. The cover needs to be steel. Supposedly this pump is specifically for type 4, but obviously, the bolts and or body did indeed need clearancing. When you say clearance the gear, you mean so the bolts sit lower in relation to the gear facing? Yes ....and then you still have to check/clearance the bolts and do all the clearance checks. No such thing as "pump is specifically for type 4",unless it is a T4 pump. It's a modified T1 pump and you still have to do all the checks. This goes without saying for any modified or not original part. |
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