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> valve lifters, big dissapointment
Elliot_Cannon
post Aug 28 2003, 11:03 AM
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Hi,
Finally get the 2.2 installed in my 73. I needed to get the 44idf carbs adjusted and and valve train was making a lot of noise. I took it back to the engine builder yesterday to have these adjustments made. I get a call from them this morning saying that they have to take the engine back apart because the cam had been worn down. Something about bad lifters! This on an egnine that cost me $7000.00 and had LESS THAN 20 MILES ON IT. These folks are supposed to be THE VW engine builders on the west coast. So now I have to go back up to their shop, drive the car home, remove the engine and bring it back up to them. Sorry to rant here but my wife is tired of hearing about the car.
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post Jul 23 2013, 02:05 PM
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General concensus these days was that a lot of it had to do with the oils changing due to new smog regulations.

Nowadays we run "High Zinc" oil. Make sure it is specified to have high zinc and phosphorus. For use with flat tappet cams is what you are looking for.

Joe Gibbs makes an oil specifically for use in air cooled motors.
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Elliot Cannon   valve lifters   Aug 28 2003, 11:03 AM
rhodyguy   [QUOTE]. why is all of that your responsibility? t...   Aug 28 2003, 11:13 AM
tryan   must be all that rtv on the pushrod tubes. sorry...   Aug 28 2003, 11:14 AM
cgnj   Well, That sucks. There was a tread on STF about ...   Aug 28 2003, 11:18 AM
rhodyguy   fly up and sit on my deck if you want to. SERENITY...   Aug 28 2003, 11:18 AM
redshift   Why is this happening so frequently? M   Aug 28 2003, 11:19 AM
Elliot Cannon   Hi, I can drive the car OK. The cam isn...   Aug 28 2003, 11:53 AM
Elliot Cannon   ...   Aug 28 2003, 12:00 PM
Brad Roberts   Hum... 2 engines in 2 weeks. I just received a ne...   Aug 28 2003, 03:56 PM
redshift   This makes 4 Type-IV engines (Web) I can count fro...   Aug 28 2003, 04:05 PM
Elliot Cannon   Hi, I just got the car home and will star...   Aug 28 2003, 04:27 PM
swood   Now I'm getting nervous. I have a sweet (so I...   Aug 28 2003, 04:46 PM
Racer Chris   I thought the last batch of Johnson lifters was th...   Aug 28 2003, 09:34 PM
redshift   I need to have questions about my new_new engine.....   Aug 28 2003, 10:06 PM
campbellcj   Very interesting that this problem has been occurr...   Aug 28 2003, 10:41 PM
Elliot Cannon   Hi, Do I understand correctly that it i...   Aug 28 2003, 11:08 PM
seanery   Elliott, These are the mechanical lifters sold by...   Aug 28 2003, 11:26 PM
redshift   Mine went @ 4800 miles, but the builder says bad g...   Aug 29 2003, 12:07 AM
Brad Roberts   Elliot..it is the lifters. If the hardness of the ...   Aug 29 2003, 01:48 AM
redshift   I liked it before, when there were enough cars her...   Aug 29 2003, 03:21 AM
Elliot Cannon   Hi, Sorry to cause any sleepless nights ov...   Aug 29 2003, 01:19 PM
tryan   take the cam and lifters and check the surface har...   Aug 29 2003, 01:33 PM
rdauenhauer   Just a thought but would those nifty hi-$ Cer...   Aug 29 2003, 01:35 PM
StratPlayer   Arrrgh,,, I just had a cam and new lifters install...   Aug 29 2003, 01:50 PM
redshift   How much was that, if you don't mind? M   Aug 29 2003, 06:43 PM
redshift   The strat is safe, ...   Aug 30 2003, 12:55 AM
Brad Roberts   Run it. If it pukes... we start a class action wit...   Aug 30 2003, 12:59 AM
redshift   We need a chat applet. The first engine was broke...   Aug 30 2003, 01:05 AM
Brad Roberts   I do have a chat applet (www.all914.com) Can you ...   Aug 30 2003, 01:08 AM
redshift   Can I prove it? No. Do I believe it had run 500 ...   Aug 30 2003, 01:21 AM
worn   Built by the best, for the best money work can b...   Jul 23 2013, 09:45 PM
rdauenhauer   Not to hijack this thread but this sort of reminde...   Aug 30 2003, 01:24 AM
redshift   I have a 40 piece Vietnamese socket set, about 10 ...   Aug 30 2003, 01:36 AM
cgnj   Hi, Could be lifter bores? Or is it a chicken bef...   Aug 30 2003, 09:10 AM
redshift     Aug 30 2003, 02:02 PM
Jake Raby   Thereare MANY contributing factors to flat cams an...   Aug 31 2003, 04:42 PM
StratPlayer   Anything special have to be done to use ceramic li...   Jan 7 2004, 06:48 PM
cnavarro   They have raised pushrod cup heights, when compare...   Jan 7 2004, 07:36 PM
Aaron Cox   oh crap. i may have the dead cam issue. I noticed ...   Jan 7 2004, 08:23 PM
Mark Henry     Jan 8 2004, 07:10 AM
redshift   Aaron dood.. if the cam goes flat, you know it. Yo...   Jan 8 2004, 07:52 AM
Jake Raby   I'll be making a BIG post on the STF either la...   Jan 8 2004, 08:13 AM
rhodyguy   is the lifter issue a problem across the range of ...   Jan 8 2004, 08:18 AM
Brett W   "oh crap. i may have the dead cam issue. I noticed...   Jan 8 2004, 08:38 AM
Jake Raby   Brett is correct. Rockers can wear ne get noisy an...   Jan 8 2004, 10:53 AM
James Adams   Jake said somewhere that he purposely floated the ...   Jan 8 2004, 12:30 PM
Jake Raby   I made this post yesterday on Pelican.... I have ...   Jan 8 2004, 02:19 PM
jkeyzer   Does anyone have a good reference on how to set up...   Jan 8 2004, 02:32 PM
Mueller   Jake, switch to decaf my man, LOL seriously, t...   Jan 8 2004, 02:41 PM
Jake Raby   Yeah..... floating valves isn't a good thing a...   Jan 8 2004, 03:22 PM
Korijo   I just re-read the entire thread... Again. I am n...   Jan 8 2004, 03:33 PM
Mueller   "pure evil"??? about shear stupidity??? yea, I...   Jan 8 2004, 03:39 PM
Korijo   What is the advantage of the oversized lifters com...   Jan 8 2004, 04:05 PM
jkeyzer   You get the lifter bores bored out for the oversiz...   Jan 8 2004, 05:30 PM
cnavarro   Layaway. That's pretty funny, considering payp...   Jan 8 2004, 05:47 PM
Air_Cooled_Nut     Jan 8 2004, 06:32 PM
Korijo   I'm in for a "Direct" replacement group buy th...   Jan 8 2004, 07:32 PM
rhodyguy   is buying a set up from cb performance an option. ...   Jan 8 2004, 09:00 PM
Jake Raby   That combo needs some serious refiguring in my opi...   Jan 9 2004, 08:54 AM
Korijo   I thought I was lacking in the cam department :un...   Jan 10 2004, 01:05 AM
Mark Henry     Jan 10 2004, 08:13 AM
Korijo  
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theo   Sorry to dig up a decade old thread, but does anyo...   Jul 23 2013, 01:52 PM
monkeyboy   General concensus these days was that a lot of it ...   Jul 23 2013, 02:05 PM
Elliot Cannon   I found some ceramic lifters. ($500) Works ...   Jul 23 2013, 03:45 PM
7TPorsh   Saw that Hemmings Motor News is making special oil...   Jul 23 2013, 04:07 PM
sean_v8_914   lots of high zddp oils coming out because of this....   Jul 24 2013, 09:23 AM
Jake Raby   Yep... This... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/upl...   Jul 24 2013, 07:03 PM
worn   So I will be ok as long as I use joe Gibbs oil? T...   Jul 24 2013, 08:11 PM
Jake Raby   So I will be ok as long as I use joe Gibbs oil? ...   Jul 24 2013, 08:55 PM


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