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> Kadron Solex Duels, Has anyone tried this setup?
Nozzle
post Aug 26 2013, 05:36 PM
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Just read a thread comparing the virtues of different carb setups and came across a link for a company selling duel single Kadron carb kits for the type 4 engines.

http://www.shop.kaddieshack.com/BRAND-NEW-...20L-43-4520.htm

I'd never really heard anyone on this board talk much about the duel single-choke carbs as a viable option. It sounds like a nice compromise between the efficiency of a stock D-jet and power of duel twin-choke Webers or Dells.

Has anyone used this setup for a 2.0 engine before and if so what cam did you use?

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post Aug 27 2013, 07:14 AM
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There's an inherent problem with dual singles on a flat four engine.
The intake pulses aren't timed properly for good balance of the air/fuel charge.
This becomes really apparent if any sort of performance camshaft is installed.

The engine firing order, being 4,3, 2,1 means one carb does 2 intake pulses sequentially and then waits one full crank revolution for the other carb to do its 2 intake pulses.
The result is that the forward cylinders (2 & 4) run at one mixture and the two rear cylinders (1 & 3) at a very different mixture.
This is exacerbated by reversion from any cam overlap which will further screw up the second pulse on both carbs.

Combined with the rather short intake runners typical of a dual carb installation, an engine with a performance cam and dual singles can not be tuned to run well.
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post Aug 27 2013, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Aug 27 2013, 09:14 AM) *

There's an inherent problem with dual singles on a flat four engine.
The intake pulses aren't timed properly for good balance of the air/fuel charge.
This becomes really apparent if any sort of performance camshaft is installed.

The engine firing order, being 4,3, 2,1 means one carb does 2 intake pulses sequentially and then waits one full crank revolution for the other carb to do its 2 intake pulses.
The result is that the forward cylinders (2 & 4) run at one mixture and the two rear cylinders (1 & 3) at a very different mixture.
This is exacerbated by reversion from any cam overlap which will further screw up the second pulse on both carbs.

Combined with the rather short intake runners typical of a dual carb installation, an engine with a performance cam and dual singles can not be tuned to run well.

One has to remember that VW already had FI (D-jet) for the type 4 and going to carbs was obviously a cost cutting measure. They only used this for a couple of years before changing the 1.8 bus (and next the 2.0) to L-jet.
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Nozzle   Kadron Solex Duels   Aug 26 2013, 05:36 PM
GeorgeRud   Actually, Porsche did fit the 914 with dual Solexe...   Aug 26 2013, 06:05 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Back in the day, I sold a ton of those things for ...   Aug 26 2013, 06:26 PM
r_towle   Does anyone have any pictures of a 914 with dual c...   Aug 26 2013, 07:35 PM
SirAndy   Does anyone have any pictures of a 914 with dual c...   Aug 26 2013, 08:33 PM
Mark Henry   Does anyone have any pictures of a 914 with dual ...   Aug 26 2013, 09:49 PM
Joe Sharp   I put them on a 1.8 and loved them. We put them on...   Aug 27 2013, 01:43 AM
Racer Chris   There's an inherent problem with dual singles ...   Aug 27 2013, 07:14 AM
ThePaintedMan   There's an inherent problem with dual singles...   Aug 27 2013, 07:31 AM
Mark Henry   There's an inherent problem with dual singles...   Aug 27 2013, 07:48 AM
DBCooper   There's an inherent problem with dual singles...   Aug 27 2013, 09:22 AM
solex   AJ and Berg were people I looked up to when I buil...   Aug 27 2013, 10:50 PM
sean_v8_914   did you run a balance tube between intakes?   Aug 28 2013, 07:48 AM
sean_v8_914   question is for anyone with kadron experience.   Aug 28 2013, 07:49 AM
solex   Yes you must run the balance tube. Back then they...   Aug 28 2013, 09:09 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Yes you must run the balance tube. Back then the...   Aug 28 2013, 09:43 AM
solex   Porsche used the balance tube on all the pushrod...   Aug 28 2013, 09:52 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Porsche used the balance tube on all the pushro...   Aug 28 2013, 09:55 AM
solex   I did not have a steel tube, I upgraded form the...   Aug 28 2013, 09:57 AM
DBCooper   I think the 356 Solex carbs used a metal balance t...   Aug 28 2013, 12:42 PM
aircooledtechguy   I've got a client with these on his 2056cc 914...   Aug 29 2013, 09:39 PM


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