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> Auto x guys: Really need help, Tell me about a "technique'
aircooledboy
post Aug 30 2013, 10:50 AM
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We have a case in my office were there is some question as to why a driver did something in an accident, and I really need to understand it.

The reconstruction has been completed and it appears that one of the cars in this "aggressive driving" scenario lost control during a maneuver wherein he applied the emergency brake on rear wheel drive car (late model Saleen Mustang) at about 80 mph while passing in tight traffic.

Can anybody tell me if here is some legit (or illegit for that matter) driving technique which would explain that?

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post Aug 30 2013, 11:08 AM
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There is a specific name for this maneuver (Scandinavian, Finn or some such thing, I can't remember) I see no legit reason for that maneuver in that situation. It will lead to fish tailing of the car and in tight traffic likely result in kissing off another car.

The legit reason for this maneuver is setting up a tight hairpin turn. You see the WRC guys doing it at speed, but only into tight hairpins and usually gravel type surface. It sets the rear out and lines the car up for earlier acceleration out of the turn.
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post Aug 30 2013, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(drgchapman @ Aug 30 2013, 01:08 PM) *

There is a specific name for this maneuver (Scandinavian, Finn or some such thing, I can't remember) I see no legit reason for that maneuver in that situation. It will lead to fish tailing of the car and in tight traffic likely result in kissing off another car.

The legit reason for this maneuver is setting up a tight hairpin turn. You see the WRC guys doing it at speed, but only into tight hairpins and usually gravel type surface. It sets the rear out and lines the car up for earlier acceleration out of the turn.


The Scandinavian Flick isn't really the action of applying the hand brake. It's the action of setting the car up facing away from the apex of the turn then flicking it aggressively toward the apex, sometimes using a combo of throttle or brake to do as you say - get the ass end to kick out and setup for a better launch out of the turn.

Hitting the handbrake on the highway is a no-no in anything other than an emergency scenario. Don't know why someone would do such a thing.
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aircooledboy   Auto x guys: Really need help   Aug 30 2013, 10:50 AM
carr914   Yes, there is. If you are Jim Rockford and you...   Aug 30 2013, 10:59 AM
6freak   Yes, there is. If you are Jim Rockford and you...   Aug 30 2013, 02:20 PM
Mblizzard   Wow that is an odd thing to do. Maybe some of the...   Aug 30 2013, 11:00 AM
drgchapman   There is a specific name for this maneuver (Scandi...   Aug 30 2013, 11:08 AM
ThePaintedMan   There is a specific name for this maneuver (Scand...   Aug 30 2013, 11:45 AM
SirAndy   There is one scenario where i would do exactly the...   Aug 30 2013, 11:38 AM
mskala   Passenger who is clueless but scared of the kind o...   Aug 30 2013, 12:07 PM
ConeDodger   Instant oversteer. Flick the wheel right or left a...   Aug 30 2013, 12:13 PM
aircooledboy   You guys rock as always. Thanks for all the ideas...   Aug 30 2013, 01:40 PM
worn   We have a case in my office were there is some qu...   Aug 30 2013, 02:38 PM
messix   its a drifting move too! nail the ebrake to g...   Aug 30 2013, 02:47 PM
Andyrew   Most likely they are a drifter or wannabe drifter....   Aug 30 2013, 03:01 PM
ripper911   I don't trust mustang drivers. There's so...   Aug 30 2013, 03:32 PM
balljoint   I don't trust mustang drivers. There's s...   Aug 30 2013, 05:50 PM
R8CERX   If the car is equipped with ABS, he can bipass at...   Aug 30 2013, 03:49 PM
brant   Jim Rockford drive a 914 in a couple of episodes   Aug 30 2013, 05:45 PM
aircooledboy   I don't know much about drifting, but I don...   Aug 31 2013, 04:59 PM
worn   I don't know much about drifting, but I don...   Aug 31 2013, 07:10 PM
TargaToy   As a younger and dumber driver, i have on occasion...   Aug 31 2013, 08:53 PM
aircooledboy   Is it possible this was a downshift error that l...   Sep 1 2013, 09:52 AM
R8CERX   As a younger and dumber driver, i have on occasio...   Sep 1 2013, 10:02 AM
J P Stein   IMO there is no place in AX for a "handbrake ...   Sep 1 2013, 07:22 AM
messix   has the car been inspected for a failure in the re...   Sep 1 2013, 12:38 PM
aircooledboy   has the car been inspected for a failure in the r...   Sep 2 2013, 09:45 AM


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