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> Cylinder heads for 1.8, replace, fix, or upgrade?
Hine62
post Sep 11 2013, 02:36 PM
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When we tuned up the valve gaps I noticed that one of my exhaust ports studs was fixed using a heli-coil. Of course that coil needed to be replace because it pulled out, then when tightening the other side of the same port I noticed the hole the stud was in was cracked, and of course it broke. I tired JB weld but that didn't work.

So my question is... can this problem be fixed, or should the heads be replaced (new or used?), or is there an upgraded head?

I'm assuming the engine will need to be pulled out to take the heads off.
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ldsgeek
post Sep 13 2013, 12:16 PM
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Not sure if the hardware is that bad, but I think the valves and ports are sized for the bus engine rather than the 914 version, meaning it will run but run out of steam at the top end.
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post Sep 13 2013, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(ldsgeek @ Sep 13 2013, 02:16 PM) *

Not sure if the hardware is that bad, but I think the valves and ports are sized for the bus engine rather than the 914 version, meaning it will run but run out of steam at the top end.

1.8 liter 914 motor uses the same valve sizes and the same heads as the 1.8 liter vw motor.

The difference is in the oil dipstick location.

The only motor that was different is the 2.0 liter motor and the difference was limited to the heads that Porsche put larger valve into for the 914.

So, these AMC castings are bolt on replacements.

I believe some engine builders and machine shops do not like the hardware used in these heads, I have heard that before.

I have not heard of any failures of these heads, so it may not be the top of the line hardware, but for 400 bucks per head, its still a bargain.

Many people buy these heads, remove all the hardware, and build up racing heads from these just because they are new castings...so the alloy has no heat cycles...thus it will take the abuse longer without a failure.

For 400 bucks, it would cost at least that to fix a cracked head...and that does not include buying new hardware, new valves, a valve job, new guides, all of it..

Still a great deal.

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Hine62   Cylinder heads for 1.8   Sep 11 2013, 02:36 PM
Mblizzard   Have you looked at the Time-sert thread repair pro...   Sep 11 2013, 03:21 PM
Cap'n Krusty   One: Why would you ever think JB Weld would fix t...   Sep 11 2013, 05:43 PM
Hine62   One: Why would you ever think JB Weld would fix ...   Sep 11 2013, 07:37 PM
Mblizzard   Sorry Cap'n I thought the OD of the Time-sert ...   Sep 11 2013, 06:36 PM
stugray   I have a set of 1.8L heads in decent condition. If...   Sep 12 2013, 10:55 AM
malcolm2   When I had HAM redo my heads, he would only take o...   Sep 12 2013, 01:37 PM
Cap'n Krusty   When I had HAM redo my heads, he would only take ...   Sep 12 2013, 01:42 PM
r_towle   Www.aircooled.net has them. 400 bucks each..cheap...   Sep 12 2013, 08:52 PM
Bob L.   Www.aircooled.net has them. 400 bucks each..chea...   Sep 13 2013, 12:46 PM
ThePaintedMan   Not sure which ones you are looking at but the p...   Sep 13 2013, 01:00 PM
Dave_Darling   Note that the new AMC heads from Spain have decent...   Sep 13 2013, 09:37 AM
r_towle   Note that the new AMC heads from Spain have decen...   Sep 13 2013, 10:46 AM
Dave_Darling   Have there been documented cases of failures of t...   Sep 13 2013, 04:02 PM
r_towle   Have there been documented cases of failures of ...   Sep 13 2013, 04:21 PM
Jake Raby   Note that the new AMC heads from Spain have dece...   Sep 13 2013, 07:59 PM
ldsgeek   Not sure if the hardware is that bad, but I think ...   Sep 13 2013, 12:16 PM
r_towle   Not sure if the hardware is that bad, but I think...   Sep 13 2013, 03:30 PM
HAM Inc   Countless documented cases. Have one in the shop ...   Sep 13 2013, 06:20 PM
Hine62   I'm glad I started this topic... great info. I...   Sep 13 2013, 09:59 PM
pilothyer   I'm glad I started this topic... great info. ...   Sep 13 2013, 11:45 PM
Bob L.   I'm glad I started this topic... great info. ...   Sep 14 2013, 09:34 PM
HAM Inc   1.8 AMC heads have not been available for several ...   Sep 14 2013, 08:05 AM
stugray   took me a couple days to dig them out & clean ...   Sep 14 2013, 09:19 PM
Hine62   took me a couple days to dig them out & clean...   Sep 14 2013, 11:48 PM
stugray   So I did a quick check on shipping. If I put both ...   Sep 15 2013, 11:04 AM
Mblizzard   So I did a quick check on shipping. If I put both...   Sep 15 2013, 01:27 PM
Hine62   So I did a quick check on shipping. If I put both...   Sep 16 2013, 02:11 PM
Kirmizi   Greyhound freight? :confused: That's how th...   Sep 15 2013, 11:31 AM
stugray   Post office? UPS office?   Sep 15 2013, 02:46 PM
Mblizzard   Post office.   Sep 15 2013, 04:06 PM
stugray   On the USPS website I only see flat rate boxes u...   Sep 15 2013, 05:15 PM
Mblizzard   It was very tight. I added a couple of layers of ...   Sep 15 2013, 06:05 PM
stugray   Sorry I have been a little distracted by the flood...   Sep 16 2013, 04:40 PM
Hine62   Sorry I have been a little distracted by the floo...   Sep 16 2013, 05:45 PM


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