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> Autox Spring rate help, Too Stiff?
nolift914
post Sep 17 2013, 06:36 PM
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Is my Autox 914 too stiff?
I am currently running the PO setup, the 914 was set up for club racing with front and rear coil overs. The front is at 330lbs/in which I believe is the equivalent to 25MM torsion bars and the rear is at 230. The 914 is a 4 weighting approx 1780lbs with bias ply slicks. I plan on switching to Dot-R radials. I have always thought for autox go soft on springs and big on bars. Does the paddock crowd have any suggestions for a setup. The autox sites in NYC tend to be on the rough side. I was thinking either 175 lbs/in in front and 140 lbs/in rear or 200 lbs/in front and 180 lbs/in rear.
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J P Stein
post Sep 21 2013, 08:05 AM
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Looking at the supplied chart the answer would 21mm=250 in lbs & 19mm=170. Did your mom have much trouble toilet training you?

These numbers are approximates.

You'll not find an easy path to 914AX Nirvana without *actual testing*. This involves spending money for parts and then trying them out......or you can set back and seek more data.
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post Sep 22 2013, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Sep 21 2013, 07:05 AM) *

Looking at the supplied chart the answer would 21mm=250 in lbs & 19mm=170. Did your mom have much trouble toilet training you?


These numbers are approximates.

Since you stated their were various spring rate charts out there, I was looking for a consensus from someone who has run front coil-overs. Its an easy choice with torsion bars either 19 or 21 but with charts listing a 21mm from 170 to 250 and a 19mm from 115 to 175. So its not as easy as potty training.


You'll not find an easy path to 914AX Nirvana without *actual testing*. This involves spending money for parts and then trying them out......or you can set back and seek more data.


I have been AutoX for 25 years but the last 15 have been in a 944, I understand the testing process, that's why I post questions in the paddock so the "experts" can trim the expense and I can learn from them. Sorry I post such simple questions as I do.
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post Sep 22 2013, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(nolift914 @ Sep 22 2013, 10:41 AM) *

I have been AutoX for 25 years but the last 15 have been in a 944, I understand the testing process, that's why I post questions in the paddock so the "experts" can trim the expense and I can learn from them. Sorry I post such simple questions as I do.


These are not simple questions as evidenced by some people posting
charts that can't all be correct, and feeling like there's only one way to do shit.

You picked up a car that was obviously set up for something else, so you
definitely have to put the time in to get it to work and feel the way you want
it. But definitely narrow it down by asking here too.
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nolift914   Autox Spring rate help   Sep 17 2013, 06:36 PM
Randal   Is my Autox 914 too stiff? I am currently running...   Sep 17 2013, 09:23 PM
J P Stein   MY 914 weighed 1700 to 1780 lbs depending on balla...   Sep 18 2013, 06:00 AM
Woody   My current AX setup is similar to what JP used to ...   Sep 18 2013, 06:18 AM
J P Stein   There are some mine fields with a suspension set ...   Sep 18 2013, 07:56 AM
nolift914   [quote name='nolift914' post='1927965' date='Sep ...   Sep 18 2013, 03:26 PM
mskala   I believe your chart is accurate from my memory of...   Sep 18 2013, 04:43 PM
nolift914   I believe your chart is accurate from my memory o...   Sep 18 2013, 05:24 PM
Randal   Right, no soft compounds with Canti's. Befor...   Sep 19 2013, 10:21 AM
nolift914   Right, no soft compounds with Canti's. Befo...   Sep 19 2013, 11:47 AM
Randal   Right, no soft compounds with Canti's. Bef...   Sep 19 2013, 09:47 PM
J P Stein   There are several spring rate for torsion bar char...   Sep 18 2013, 07:53 PM
J P Stein   R35 Hoosiers always worked for me. There was most ...   Sep 19 2013, 12:27 PM
nolift914   R35 Hoosiers always worked for me. There was most...   Sep 19 2013, 12:48 PM
Downunderman   With 330 on the front and 230 on the back the thin...   Sep 19 2013, 01:29 PM
Racer Chris   With 330 on the front and 230 on the back the thi...   Sep 20 2013, 04:56 AM
J P Stein   Next time some expert tells you what spring rate y...   Sep 20 2013, 08:53 AM
nolift914   I guess my question is what spring rate is equival...   Sep 20 2013, 09:03 AM
J P Stein   Looking at the supplied chart the answer would 21m...   Sep 21 2013, 08:05 AM
nolift914   Looking at the supplied chart the answer would 21...   Sep 22 2013, 08:41 AM
mskala   I have been AutoX for 25 years but the last 15 ha...   Sep 22 2013, 03:04 PM
Randal   Looking at the supplied chart the answer would 2...   Sep 22 2013, 07:16 PM
Randal   Speaking of research, have you asked Tom Provasi h...   Sep 21 2013, 08:42 AM
Woody   :agree:   Sep 22 2013, 04:22 PM
J P Stein   First let me say there are MAYBE 6-8 truly fast 91...   Sep 23 2013, 07:22 AM
nolift914   Lesson learned, do not reply to a post after 14hr ...   Sep 25 2013, 07:43 AM
Randal   Lesson learned, do not reply to a post after 14hr...   Sep 25 2013, 08:25 PM
J P Stein   Coil overs intrude on the space for tires. Using s...   Sep 25 2013, 09:31 AM
J P Stein   When administrating the "butt test", I w...   Sep 26 2013, 09:53 AM
nolift914   When administrating the "butt test", I ...   Sep 27 2013, 08:00 AM
Racer Chris   ... I am retaining the 230lb rear springs and goi...   Sep 27 2013, 10:31 AM
J P Stein   ... I am retaining the 230lb rear springs and go...   Sep 27 2013, 12:12 PM
nolift914   [quote name='Racer Chris' post='1932693' date='Se...   Nov 12 2013, 07:32 AM
Woody   Awesome. Did you get a video?   Nov 12 2013, 09:27 AM
nolift914   Awesome. Did you get a video? The battery in my ...   Nov 12 2013, 03:07 PM
ChrisNPDrider   OMG isn't it always about the tires? <_...   Nov 13 2013, 10:45 AM
nolift914   OMG isn't it always about the tires? <_...   Nov 13 2013, 02:55 PM
sean_v8_914   lots of great recommendations from very experience...   Nov 15 2013, 01:19 PM
nolift914   lots of great recommendations from very experienc...   Nov 15 2013, 07:16 PM
Woody   lots of great recommendations from very experien...   Nov 15 2013, 07:53 PM
Randal   [quote name='nolift914' post='1957411' date='Nov ...   Nov 16 2013, 10:55 AM
dlestep   Use charts as reference to get yourself in the nei...   Nov 16 2013, 01:15 PM
Randal   If you think tires are important, try asking som...   Nov 16 2013, 01:29 PM
Woody   I don't run with any of you so this is what I ...   Nov 16 2013, 02:39 PM
Randal   I don't run with any of you so this is what I...   Nov 16 2013, 02:58 PM
Woody   I don't run with any of you so this is what ...   Nov 16 2013, 07:16 PM


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