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> Autox Spring rate help, Too Stiff?
nolift914
post Sep 17 2013, 06:36 PM
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Is my Autox 914 too stiff?
I am currently running the PO setup, the 914 was set up for club racing with front and rear coil overs. The front is at 330lbs/in which I believe is the equivalent to 25MM torsion bars and the rear is at 230. The 914 is a 4 weighting approx 1780lbs with bias ply slicks. I plan on switching to Dot-R radials. I have always thought for autox go soft on springs and big on bars. Does the paddock crowd have any suggestions for a setup. The autox sites in NYC tend to be on the rough side. I was thinking either 175 lbs/in in front and 140 lbs/in rear or 200 lbs/in front and 180 lbs/in rear.
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J P Stein
post Sep 23 2013, 07:22 AM
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First let me say there are MAYBE 6-8 truly fast 914 AXers in this country.
There are exactly 0 944s (or other Porsches) that can come close to them.
I know of only 2 or 3 that compete in SCCA AXs at a national level (or semi-national) at the Prepared level You can rest assured that these folks have their shit wired and will undoubtedly blow the doors of "pretenders" in head to head competition.

These guys didn't just appear from nowhere tho one of them just recently bought a well developed ride (With a pee pot full of money in it).

As far as I know the 6-8 group went thru the steps of up thru the time charts so they *know* the way. Since the OP has a balls out race car, they are both his competition and his best source of pertinent data on how to get there. That doesn't mean one doesn't need to use his head and go solely on the data supplied. If you wanna be a casual AXer, fine, the info s there.......but the guys that have it together
are not casual and aren't gonna lead you by the hand.....chances are they didn't get such help.
In my experience, PCA AXers fall into the casual vein.......all well & good but meat & potatoes for the hard core 6-8..
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nolift914   Autox Spring rate help   Sep 17 2013, 06:36 PM
Randal   Is my Autox 914 too stiff? I am currently running...   Sep 17 2013, 09:23 PM
J P Stein   MY 914 weighed 1700 to 1780 lbs depending on balla...   Sep 18 2013, 06:00 AM
Woody   My current AX setup is similar to what JP used to ...   Sep 18 2013, 06:18 AM
J P Stein   There are some mine fields with a suspension set ...   Sep 18 2013, 07:56 AM
nolift914   [quote name='nolift914' post='1927965' date='Sep ...   Sep 18 2013, 03:26 PM
mskala   I believe your chart is accurate from my memory of...   Sep 18 2013, 04:43 PM
nolift914   I believe your chart is accurate from my memory o...   Sep 18 2013, 05:24 PM
Randal   Right, no soft compounds with Canti's. Befor...   Sep 19 2013, 10:21 AM
nolift914   Right, no soft compounds with Canti's. Befo...   Sep 19 2013, 11:47 AM
Randal   Right, no soft compounds with Canti's. Bef...   Sep 19 2013, 09:47 PM
J P Stein   There are several spring rate for torsion bar char...   Sep 18 2013, 07:53 PM
J P Stein   R35 Hoosiers always worked for me. There was most ...   Sep 19 2013, 12:27 PM
nolift914   R35 Hoosiers always worked for me. There was most...   Sep 19 2013, 12:48 PM
Downunderman   With 330 on the front and 230 on the back the thin...   Sep 19 2013, 01:29 PM
Racer Chris   With 330 on the front and 230 on the back the thi...   Sep 20 2013, 04:56 AM
J P Stein   Next time some expert tells you what spring rate y...   Sep 20 2013, 08:53 AM
nolift914   I guess my question is what spring rate is equival...   Sep 20 2013, 09:03 AM
J P Stein   Looking at the supplied chart the answer would 21m...   Sep 21 2013, 08:05 AM
nolift914   Looking at the supplied chart the answer would 21...   Sep 22 2013, 08:41 AM
mskala   I have been AutoX for 25 years but the last 15 ha...   Sep 22 2013, 03:04 PM
Randal   Looking at the supplied chart the answer would 2...   Sep 22 2013, 07:16 PM
Randal   Speaking of research, have you asked Tom Provasi h...   Sep 21 2013, 08:42 AM
Woody   :agree:   Sep 22 2013, 04:22 PM
J P Stein   First let me say there are MAYBE 6-8 truly fast 91...   Sep 23 2013, 07:22 AM
nolift914   Lesson learned, do not reply to a post after 14hr ...   Sep 25 2013, 07:43 AM
Randal   Lesson learned, do not reply to a post after 14hr...   Sep 25 2013, 08:25 PM
J P Stein   Coil overs intrude on the space for tires. Using s...   Sep 25 2013, 09:31 AM
J P Stein   When administrating the "butt test", I w...   Sep 26 2013, 09:53 AM
nolift914   When administrating the "butt test", I ...   Sep 27 2013, 08:00 AM
Racer Chris   ... I am retaining the 230lb rear springs and goi...   Sep 27 2013, 10:31 AM
J P Stein   ... I am retaining the 230lb rear springs and go...   Sep 27 2013, 12:12 PM
nolift914   [quote name='Racer Chris' post='1932693' date='Se...   Nov 12 2013, 07:32 AM
Woody   Awesome. Did you get a video?   Nov 12 2013, 09:27 AM
nolift914   Awesome. Did you get a video? The battery in my ...   Nov 12 2013, 03:07 PM
ChrisNPDrider   OMG isn't it always about the tires? <_...   Nov 13 2013, 10:45 AM
nolift914   OMG isn't it always about the tires? <_...   Nov 13 2013, 02:55 PM
sean_v8_914   lots of great recommendations from very experience...   Nov 15 2013, 01:19 PM
nolift914   lots of great recommendations from very experienc...   Nov 15 2013, 07:16 PM
Woody   lots of great recommendations from very experien...   Nov 15 2013, 07:53 PM
Randal   [quote name='nolift914' post='1957411' date='Nov ...   Nov 16 2013, 10:55 AM
dlestep   Use charts as reference to get yourself in the nei...   Nov 16 2013, 01:15 PM
Randal   If you think tires are important, try asking som...   Nov 16 2013, 01:29 PM
Woody   I don't run with any of you so this is what I ...   Nov 16 2013, 02:39 PM
Randal   I don't run with any of you so this is what I...   Nov 16 2013, 02:58 PM
Woody   I don't run with any of you so this is what ...   Nov 16 2013, 07:16 PM


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