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> Water spots, In the paint that I can't get out
michael7810
post Sep 23 2013, 07:44 PM
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I've tried wax, polishing compound and rubbing compound and it doesn't do a thing to remove these spots. They appeared after the car was parked outside in the rain, then sun. It looks like the paint is faded because I
can't feel anything on the surface. I recently cleaned and waxed it with PS21 products and it looked great until this. The car was painted 25 years ago. Thanks for any tips you have.

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post Sep 25 2013, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Sep 25 2013, 05:39 AM) *

QUOTE(Rob-O @ Sep 25 2013, 12:12 AM) *

Actually, from a chemistry perspective (and a paint one too, since I've worn that hat), water is best. The deposits are minerals present in the water before it evaporated on the surface. Try washing the car, in cool weather, in the shade if possible. Keep the area saturated (wet) as long as possible. That will help the deposits become soluable in the water again. Using rubbing compounds doesn't usually do a good job because the binding agent of the deposits aren't affected by the solvents (xylene/benzene/ketones) that are used as the carrier solvents for the 'grit' of rubbing compounds.

Polishing paint (which is removing paint, really) doesn't seem like a good solution to removing something that is ON the paint.

If the water route doesn't work, head to your local marine store, there are some products out there specifically made for removing water spots from boats.


Now THAT is my kind of response, since I wear the science hat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) That's what I've always done - saturate the paint with a longer wash. Clay bar if you like at that point. Then follow up with a quality wax. The wax will help to fill in the microscopic voids in the paint and minimize the deposition of other materials like minerals.


Thanks Painted Man, just trying to help. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I use a clay bar on my vehicles as well. I haven't used it for water spots though. It is an easy method to try first if you have the clay bar around. If not, I've found the clay bar at Autozone or other FLAPS.
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michael7810   Water spots   Sep 23 2013, 07:44 PM
r_towle   Try a clay bar   Sep 23 2013, 07:57 PM
Kirmizi   How aggressive were you with the rubbing compound,...   Sep 23 2013, 08:00 PM
michael7810   I have not tried a clay bar. I was not real aggres...   Sep 23 2013, 09:34 PM
NJ914Guy   Clay bar or a porter cable DA with some cutting po...   Sep 23 2013, 09:36 PM
ConeDodger   Water spots can happen when water is allowed to si...   Sep 23 2013, 09:45 PM
orthobiz   Per John Paterek, add some Blue Magic about the si...   Sep 24 2013, 04:51 PM
Pat Garvey   Per John Paterek, add some Blue Magic about the s...   Sep 24 2013, 06:30 PM
michael7810   Blue Magic - is that a metal polish?   Sep 24 2013, 07:07 PM
Kirmizi   From a Google search, the all purpose cleaner? :...   Sep 24 2013, 08:08 PM
Rob-O   Actually, from a chemistry perspective (and a pain...   Sep 24 2013, 10:12 PM
ThePaintedMan   Actually, from a chemistry perspective (and a pai...   Sep 25 2013, 07:39 AM
Andyrew   Thats metalic paint, so I would think its a base c...   Sep 24 2013, 10:23 PM
scotty b   find someone with a real buffer, not a polisher. A...   Sep 25 2013, 08:26 AM
jbyron   I've always had excellent results removing wat...   Sep 25 2013, 08:39 AM
Rob-O   Actually, from a chemistry perspective (and a pa...   Sep 25 2013, 10:07 AM
andys   My Daughters dark blue '13 Elantra got water s...   Sep 25 2013, 11:28 AM
michael7810   It's not metallic paint and I've been told...   Sep 25 2013, 05:00 PM
Jeff Hail   How did all those Grandma's clean the water sp...   Sep 27 2013, 12:07 AM
Rob-O   I don't know why, but the above post reminds m...   Sep 27 2013, 06:10 AM
Jeff Hail   I don't know why, but the above post reminds ...   Sep 27 2013, 09:02 AM
Mikey914   Clay bar will take care of it   Sep 27 2013, 07:45 AM
lsintampa   I've been told that metal polish works wonders...   Sep 27 2013, 10:20 AM
OU8AVW   First, clean the lens on your camera. If that does...   Sep 27 2013, 07:58 PM
michael7810   I started with the easier recommendations: Cleaned...   Sep 28 2013, 03:45 PM
Kirmizi   I would suggest just drive it and put more spots o...   Sep 28 2013, 04:04 PM
bigkensteele   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSReSGe200A   Sep 28 2013, 09:12 PM
toolguy   Clay bar and rubbing compound are for surface con...   Sep 29 2013, 08:59 AM
plays with cars   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSReSGe200A OMG ...   Sep 29 2013, 10:57 PM
carr914   Ex -wife? Vinegar Explain that one to me, ple...   Sep 30 2013, 05:47 AM


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