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> unpleasant surprise, new fuse panel install
r3dplanet
post May 26 2012, 08:58 PM
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Quite a while back I bought an Engman fuse panel. It's lovely and I'm happy that I bought it. I finally installed it today and, after a little smoke, made an unpleasant discovery.

It turns out that the metal bracket on the back of the fuse panel touches right up to a positive wire connector that has live voltage.

Hence the smoke.

My question is why is this battery connector sitting right here so close to the panel? With the new fuse panel bolted up it makes direct contact between the rear metal bracket and the live connector making a really solid short circuit. Has anyone else noticed this? I have no idea if my connector is even in the stock location. There doesn't seem to be another convenient spot to relocate it to.

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post Oct 17 2013, 09:32 AM
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With due respect to the 'inventors' of these aftermarket fusepanels, I am not convinced these are worth the trouble over the factory stock fusepanel. I think they are solutions to a non-problem and in fact create other problems just to make them work, and the experiences in this thread prove that. They are just adaptations of inexpensive generic fuse boxes interposed into the factory wiring for minimal if any benefit. Why anyone would give up the quality built factory fusepanel is a mystery to me. Just because these are new, does not mean they are better. Some seem to be better than others, in fairness. I would really like to see a 'shoot-out' comparison to better understand their characteristics compared to each other and with the stock fusepanel by a neutral person that can give us the facts.

My concerns are:

1. Sure they use new improved fuses - so what, the original bullet fuses work fine.

2. Some complain that they knock the fuse cover and fuses off getting in/out of the car. That has never happened to me in 35 years of driving these cars. Just be cautious or zip tie the cover on if this is problem for you.

3. The shorts to ground and melted wires for the early cars described above are serious hazards - why should the factory terminal block need to be relocated, wrapped, taped to the harness or left to hang free just to accommodate the new fusepanel? Its stupid to have to do this and should not need to be done - it screams to me that these fusepanels create more problems than they solve.

4. The wires from the harness do not connect onto the fusepanel well because they attach through the sides of the fusepanels, putting strain at the wire-to-wire terminal junction. So as a result, the harness wrapping needs to be cut and loosened up to minimize this strain. Another thing that is contrived.

5. The factory fusepanel has busses for some of the circuits that the aftermarket fusepanels do not have becasue they are generic adaptions. How are these circuits handled with the aftermarket fusepanels and has the engineering been done to assure that these affected circuits are not under/overloaded? Are adapter tabs used? If so..another contrivance.

There may be more, but thats it for now.
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spankmeister7   unpleasant surprise   May 26 2012, 08:58 PM
kg6dxn   You have an early car. You could remove the connec...   May 26 2012, 09:12 PM
spankmeister7   Entirely true. Mostly. The car is a 1971. The engi...   May 26 2012, 09:18 PM
kg6dxn   Later cars ~'72ish had two wires from the batt...   May 26 2012, 09:23 PM
914Bryan   On my 74, that is where the ground wires bolt to.   May 27 2012, 09:17 AM
914itis   I had my share last year on my 70, check this thre...   May 27 2012, 09:43 AM
914itis   In my case, the bolt touched that the block where ...   May 27 2012, 10:43 AM
Tom   This is the reason I put together a fuse block kit...   May 27 2012, 12:31 PM
jimkelly   I just had the same problem as OP - but manageable...   Oct 16 2013, 02:05 PM
Tom   A word of experienced advise for those who do thei...   Oct 16 2013, 06:17 PM
r3dplanet   I'm surprised no one stomped on the "disc...   Oct 16 2013, 07:44 PM
jimkelly   I actually installed the fuise box months ago with...   Oct 16 2013, 08:05 PM
914itis   I will post a picture of my distribution box that ...   Oct 16 2013, 08:14 PM
914itis   I used something like this and a fuse between the ...   Oct 16 2013, 08:17 PM
mikesmith   I used something like this and a fuse between the...   Oct 16 2013, 09:40 PM
chads74   I used something like this and a fuse between the...   Oct 17 2013, 07:35 AM
914itis   I used something like this and a fuse between th...   Oct 17 2013, 09:58 AM
mikesmith   question is how best to butt these 4 wires togeth...   Oct 16 2013, 10:01 PM
Tom   Well, my intent wasn't to stomp. Merely to giv...   Oct 17 2013, 04:35 AM
JWest   This thread was brought to my atttention suggestin...   Oct 17 2013, 06:27 AM
mikesmith   This thread was brought to my atttention suggesti...   Dec 5 2013, 01:47 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   With due respect to the 'inventors' of the...   Oct 17 2013, 09:32 AM
Bartlett 914   With due respect to the 'inventors' of th...   Oct 17 2013, 09:49 AM
JWest   The buss bar connections you referred to could be...   Oct 17 2013, 10:37 AM
JWest   1. Sure they use new improved fuses - so what, t...   Oct 17 2013, 10:22 AM
DBCooper   Couldn't agree more. 1. In a variable weath...   Nov 5 2013, 09:19 AM
Tedman5   The exact same thing happened in my 70. Melted a f...   Oct 17 2013, 10:49 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   I wonder what the ampacity of solder wick is? Wha...   Oct 18 2013, 02:55 PM
larryM   I installed a JWEST panel in my 1970 sixer 2 yrs a...   Nov 9 2013, 10:44 PM
boogie_man   We put a engman fuse panel in and YES, when we put...   Dec 5 2013, 02:22 PM


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