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jimkelly
post Nov 6 2013, 06:02 AM
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and can some describe how a relay works?

is it that HIGH AMPERAGE thru 85 and 86 operate a switch, and when switched send LOW AMPERAGE thru 30 and 87? what is 87A's purpose?


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freakin ingenious.

since our cars are run from a 12v battery, how does current know to be high or low, simply by the diameter of the wire it passes thru, or the draw of the item being run?

I assume running a circuit with a relay is cheaper than running a circuit thru a switch that can handle more current because of the cost of a better switch and the cost of running more heavy wire throughout the car?

I think I am beigining to understand the purpose of a relay, visually.

thanks guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

i think image is correct?


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QUOTE(jimkelly @ Nov 6 2013, 12:50 PM) *

freakin ingenious.

since our cars are run from a 12v battery, how does current know to be high or low, simply by the diameter of the wire it passes thru, or the draw of the item being run?

I assume running a circuit with a relay is cheaper than running a circuit thru a switch that can handle more current because of the cost of a better switch and the cost of running more heavy wire throughout the car?

I think I am beigining to understand the purpose of a relay, visually.

thanks guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


The thickness of the wire is determined by the load. Heavy load needs thick wire; light load needs thinner wires.

Cost and practicality determine minimum wire size. For example running battery cable thick wires through the car would be very expensive and would not fit under the dash.

The current draw is determined by the type of load for example:
1) A side marker light might draw 1AMP and only needs a small diameter wire.
2) A headlamp might draw 5-10AMP will need a heavier wire.
3) A starter might draw 60-100AMP will need a real heavy wire.

You are correct about the relay. It allows a small switch to switch a large current.

Think about a 914 with 2 headlights, 2 heater fans, the ECU, and FP. Even a large switch couldn't turn all these on/off. Each is run by relays where the ignition switch turns on the relays and the relay contacts carry the high currents.
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jimkelly   how relay works ?   Nov 6 2013, 06:02 AM
914itis   How relay works Have fun   Nov 6 2013, 06:29 AM
arcadeforever   wow, thats a great document! How relay works H...   Nov 6 2013, 06:54 AM
JStroud   How relay works Have fun Nice link, where did y...   Nov 6 2013, 08:44 AM
914itis   [quote name='914itis' post='1952680' date='Nov 6 ...   Nov 6 2013, 10:32 AM
arcadeforever   from what I can see.... oddly enough it appears 87...   Nov 6 2013, 06:49 AM
arcadeforever   Shows how much of a newb I am, lol, I just saw in ...   Nov 6 2013, 07:21 AM
pcar916   To answer in short... When the circuit is comple...   Nov 6 2013, 07:57 AM
pcar916   Bowlsby has a lot of information on his site. htt...   Nov 6 2013, 09:54 AM
Dave_Darling   I also have a write-up, about halfway down in this...   Nov 6 2013, 10:02 AM
pcar916   Forgot about this! That's a great write-up...   Nov 6 2013, 10:07 AM
jimkelly   freakin ingenious. since our cars are run from a...   Nov 6 2013, 10:50 AM
Spoke   freakin ingenious. since our cars are run from ...   Nov 6 2013, 11:53 AM
pcar916   ... i think image is correct? 30 is always a pe...   Nov 7 2013, 03:19 AM
underdog   ... i think image is correct? 30 is always a p...   Nov 7 2013, 07:52 AM
Dave_Darling   30 is always a permanent ground. No, 30 should be...   Nov 7 2013, 09:43 AM
Mike Bellis   Current is limited by the fuse size and to some ex...   Nov 6 2013, 11:41 AM
Mike Bellis   By the way current is stupid and don't know sh...   Nov 6 2013, 11:47 AM
Tom   Relays use a small current to control a much large...   Nov 6 2013, 01:09 PM
r_towle   Current or load is always dictated by the device c...   Nov 6 2013, 05:32 PM
Mike Bellis   Read this...   Nov 6 2013, 08:00 PM
jimkelly   I believe pin 30 is always connected to either 87 ...   Nov 7 2013, 08:41 AM
Spoke   I believe pin 30 is always connected to either 87...   Nov 7 2013, 09:25 AM
Mike Bellis   Relay nomenclature: 30: Common 87: Nomally Open 87...   Nov 7 2013, 09:56 AM


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