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post Nov 28 2013, 04:41 PM
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Oil temp is cool, heads are running hot.

What are the top five .....


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post Nov 28 2013, 09:37 PM
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A couple things here, IMHO:

1) What kind of CHT gauge are you using? If it's a VDO type, then it's non-compensating type. Up where you guys are, you've been having cold weather, which means that it likely is reading quite a few degrees higher than the actual CHT is. Read more here:

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/VDOGauges.html

2) Timing is probably one of the biggest drivers of CHT temps, especially under load. However, you know your stuff and as long as you're pretty confident you have it set correctly, you're probably pretty close and can rule that out as you main concern.

3) Jetting, especially under load. If you've got the temps way down, then you were probably way lean previously. What mains and idle jets are in it now, and what size engine are we talking about?

4) Sync of the carbs. If one carb is open more than the other, that side of the engine is doing far more work. If that happens to be the side you have the CHT lead on, then the higher temps you're seeing are a good indication that the other side might not be pulling it's weight. Verify your sync tomorrow before you get on the road with the gauge (you have a synchrometer, correct?) Might even try checking it at several different RPMS - idle, 2k and 3k.

5) Valves - if you've got a tight valve lash on the #3 cylinder (where your CHT lead should be), especially an exhaust, you're not letting the valve do it's secondary, but important role of sinking heat away from the head. Check your valve lash adjustment before you start it up in the morning. Keep it on the loose side instead of tight if you're concerned, especially on the exhaust valves.

When in doubt, run it pig rich with jets if you're just trying to get to Chris' shop. Doing it for too long can be harmful, but if it's far too lean, you're risking really high temps which could do more damage quicker. Also, if you being to see the temps spike, slow down a little and downshift. The less "lugging" you put the engine through, the lower the temps should be. After that, let Chris help you figure the rest out - I learned a lot from him, and he is truly one of the Obi-Wans here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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wndsnd   Head Temperature top five   Nov 28 2013, 04:41 PM
brant   Timing AF ratio   Nov 28 2013, 04:45 PM
wndsnd   Timing AF ratio 1. Too advanced, or too retar...   Nov 28 2013, 04:58 PM
bulitt   Timing AF ratio 1. Too advanced, or too reta...   Nov 29 2013, 05:46 AM
adam415   [quote name='wndsnd' post='1963736' date='Nov 28 ...   Jan 18 2014, 04:40 AM
brant   Advanced. And idle screws adjust idle. Jets tak...   Nov 28 2013, 05:05 PM
dfelz   Advanced. And idle screws adjust idle. Jets ta...   Nov 28 2013, 05:31 PM
McMark   How hot?   Nov 28 2013, 05:33 PM
wndsnd   How hot? You don't want to know. Accordin...   Nov 28 2013, 06:21 PM
Jake Raby   How hot? You don't want to know. Accordi...   Nov 28 2013, 09:57 PM
wndsnd   [quote name='wndsnd' post='1963767' date='Nov 28 ...   Nov 28 2013, 10:08 PM
Mark Henry   mice   Nov 28 2013, 05:34 PM
wndsnd   mice Got all the mice.   Nov 28 2013, 06:22 PM
ConeDodger   Even in a perfect tune, head temps go up when you ...   Nov 28 2013, 05:41 PM
wndsnd   Even in a perfect tune, head temps go up when you...   Nov 28 2013, 06:30 PM
wndsnd   Just rejetted the mains, and got the temps down su...   Nov 28 2013, 06:29 PM
McMark   You really shouldn't see anything over 16. 18 ...   Nov 28 2013, 06:38 PM
wndsnd   You really shouldn't see anything over 16. 18...   Nov 28 2013, 06:43 PM
914itis   You really shouldn't see anything over 16. 18...   Nov 28 2013, 07:58 PM
76-914   Did you verify the temp reading.   Nov 28 2013, 06:42 PM
wndsnd   Did you verify the temp reading. No, Wish I ...   Nov 28 2013, 06:45 PM
PanelBilly   Harbor Freight has the infrared guns on sale tomor...   Nov 28 2013, 07:26 PM
wndsnd   Probably wouldn't help because head temps chan...   Nov 28 2013, 07:33 PM
Kirmizi   Is the thermostat installed and what is the positi...   Nov 28 2013, 07:45 PM
wndsnd   Is the thermostat installed and what is the posit...   Nov 28 2013, 08:15 PM
wndsnd   I have the AEM Paul but I noticed when car is real...   Nov 28 2013, 08:17 PM
ThePaintedMan   A couple things here, IMHO: 1) What kind of CHT g...   Nov 28 2013, 09:37 PM
wndsnd   Thanks George That is all good information and fo...   Nov 28 2013, 10:01 PM
r_towle   I may sort of be on the way to chaises if you want...   Nov 28 2013, 10:46 PM
gothspeed   Recheck the valve adjustment, this is sometimes a ...   Nov 28 2013, 11:50 PM
Rand   Some input from my experience.... In my testing, a...   Nov 29 2013, 12:04 AM
gothspeed   Some input from my experience.... In my testing, ...   Nov 29 2013, 12:33 AM
wndsnd   Well I ran it rich and it made the 2 1/2 hour trip...   Nov 29 2013, 09:44 AM
adam415   A rich condition will not make your motor-any part...   Jan 18 2014, 04:37 AM


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