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era vulgaris
post Dec 25 2013, 06:40 PM
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I'm trying to source the lower air guides for my cooling tins, since they are missing. How much difference is there in these parts from model year to model year? I'm guessing the difference is due to the change from tail shift to side shift, or?

I'm running into different info from different sources.
For example, Pelican Parts' diagram says that the passenger side tin is good for all years, but the driver's side tin is split into two variations: 70-72 and 73-74. http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/parts/engi...metal_large.htm
They say that 022119356A is for 70-72. But Auto Atlanta says that part is for 73-74. http://www.autoatlanta.com/Porsche-022119356A-srch.html

Who is right?

BTW, I've got a '72 1.7 but it's been modified to side shift. So which one would I want - 022119356A or 022119356B, or does it matter?
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post Dec 26 2013, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Dec 26 2013, 12:20 PM) *

I'm sure Bruce Stone has a few. Give him a call or PM.

The Cap'n


Cool, I'll ask him. I think I just bought a taco plate with the temp sender in it from him.


QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 26 2013, 01:58 PM) *

fwiw. my paper aa catalog shows 3 numbers for the dr side warm air PLATES. p 178 part #6. #039 119 354 for 2.0 right (should be left) 1975-76 2.0. for right (should be left) 1970-72 #022 119 356. for left (got it right this time) 1973-74 1.7/1.8 (should include 2.0 4 cyl) #022 119 356 A. you'll need to ask exactly the right ?s to get the correct part. would you want me to post a couple of pictures of the correct PLATE?


That would be awesome if you have a picture so I know which one I'm looking for!


QUOTE(euro911 @ Dec 26 2013, 04:30 PM) *

So then, if they push air rearward, they'll provide more forward thrust ... no need to paint your car yellow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


They actually push air forward. These engines were designed to be rear mounted in the 411, 412, 912E, and I guess they never redesigned the tin when they flipped the engine around for this car, hence the need for the air deflection plates at the bottom of the fire wall to move the air that's flowing under the car out of the way of the air coming out of the cooling tin.

Also something I was thinking about…without the air deflection plates (which I also don't have) is air going to be rushing the wrong way up the cooling tin if I do add these lower air guides?
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era vulgaris   lower air guides   Dec 25 2013, 06:40 PM
rhodyguy   #3 in the diagram @ pp is for tail shifters. pictu...   Dec 25 2013, 07:23 PM
euro911   My wife's '71 has those tins. I'll nee...   Dec 25 2013, 08:30 PM
McMark   Three different variations: Tailshift - This vers...   Dec 25 2013, 09:42 PM
r_towle   Three different variations: Tailshift - This ver...   Dec 25 2013, 10:24 PM
McMark   Ah, I never was exactly clear what cars came with ...   Dec 25 2013, 11:25 PM
rdauenhauer   :agree: :santa:   Dec 25 2013, 11:25 PM
era vulgaris   #3 in the diagram @ pp is for tail shifters. pict...   Dec 25 2013, 11:32 PM
euro911   Valid question and I'll defer to someone more ...   Dec 25 2013, 11:46 PM
McMark   Actually, I think the lowest air guides are meant ...   Dec 26 2013, 12:15 AM
r_towle   Actually, I think the lowest air guides are meant...   Dec 26 2013, 03:06 PM
rhodyguy   some degree of protection for the push rod tubes t...   Dec 26 2013, 07:54 AM
McMark   I'd say the exhaust connection is more about a...   Dec 26 2013, 11:16 AM
Cap'n Krusty   I'm sure Bruce Stone has a few. Give him a ca...   Dec 26 2013, 11:20 AM
rhodyguy   fwiw. my paper aa catalog shows 3 numbers for the ...   Dec 26 2013, 12:58 PM
rdauenhauer   OK Ill bite.. Kev do you have a pair of the LATE (...   Dec 26 2013, 01:59 PM
euro911   So then, if they push air rearward, they'll pr...   Dec 26 2013, 03:30 PM
era vulgaris   I'm sure Bruce Stone has a few. Give him a c...   Dec 26 2013, 04:28 PM
euro911   I don't remember which way they deflected ... ...   Dec 26 2013, 04:54 PM
era vulgaris   They are definitely open facing forwards, pushing ...   Dec 26 2013, 08:56 PM
euro911   Well, another good reason not to use them then :l...   Dec 26 2013, 10:24 PM
Cupomeat   The lower air guide(s) also help to keep the therm...   Dec 26 2013, 10:43 PM
reharvey   The lower air guide(s) also help to keep the ther...   Dec 26 2013, 11:26 PM
euro911   The lower air guide(s) also help to keep the therm...   Dec 27 2013, 12:51 AM
rhodyguy   rich, i might have a few pieces in the ducting bin...   Dec 27 2013, 12:02 AM
rdauenhauer   no. the late ones   Dec 27 2013, 12:13 AM
rhodyguy   like i wrote. there must be some pictures in the ...   Dec 27 2013, 12:17 AM


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