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> Street vs Track tires for first DE event?
stugray
post Feb 1 2014, 10:37 AM
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I will be taking my first full track drivers ed this year and I have been debating with a "seasoned driver" about whether I should run street tires vs full race slicks.

The experienced driver is adamant that I go straight to the racing tires and learn that way.

I have a differing opinion where I believe that learning on the street tires would have numerous advantages such as:
The car will be a little more loose presenting sliding and brake lockup sooner so that the "excursions" will be less extreme.

The street tires will give more feedback as they begin to loose grip than the track tires (street tires will begin to make noise before the track tires)

The street tires will loose grip more gradually giving the new driver more time to compensate for loss of traction.

The street tires will loose grip at slower speeds giving the feel of recovering from loss of control at safer speeds.

I feel that learning to drive the car on street tires and progressing to stickier tires is not only safer, but cheaper in the long run.

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post Feb 1 2014, 11:16 AM
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I can see benefits to both arguements
and obviously you are both right

What I have noticed about driving on street tires and even slower race tires, like victoracers or toyo's

when compaired to faster tires... the street tires teach you to do some things differently. Yes they may give you earlier warning but this teaches your reflexes to expect different things than the other tires teach you. Race tires give plenty of notice too.... and when they let you know you are near a limit, you have to learn how to handle and work with that limit in a much different way than with street tires

so every time that I learn on a toyo or learn on a street tire
I'm actually slower when I go back to a hoosier and have to re-teach my body to work with the hoosier

the safer arguement can go either way
I've had more near misses accidents on slippery and worn out tires than I have on good rubber.

I've nearly totaled my car because I was trying to use up something beyond its life expectancy... one time I slid into a gravel trap at high speed and stopped 12 inches away from a concrete wall in 12 inches of sand....

another time the car rotated 180 and I was still traveling at 60mph looking in my rear view mirror heading directly to another concrete wall... I turned the wheel enough to rotate another 90 degree's and was only a couple of feet away/parallel from the wall when the car came under control.

so 150$ cheaper in the tire price... but not cheaper if you have an accident.

but street tires are teaching you some things differently than you need to learn them... teaching your muscle reflexes the wrong lesson slightly

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