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> Electrical Question #15 Need Help Please, I'm totally stumped this time
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post Apr 6 2014, 06:33 PM
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I'm going to have several electrical questions. 1st, Is pin #8, on the 14 pin plug at the relay board, the only switched 12v+ source in the engine compartment? TIA, Kent
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Kent,
Don't know why as they don't draw that much. Is the Subie ECU controlling them? If so, that feature may already be in place inside the ECU because Subaru found it to be an issue, but I don't know for sure. If you found it to be a problem, it wouldn't be that hard to remedy. A 30 amp relay wired for the starter circuit to open the fan circuit. Basically the fan power to 30, ground to 85, fan energized to 87A (NC contact), and starter power from the key switch to 86. Whenever the starter circuit is energized, the relay opens and fans have no power. Stop starting, power to fans is back.
I think this would mostly depend on how much current the fans draw if the engine is hot and both are running to cool it. Say you drive 15 miles to the store and are inside 5 min and come back out. Would the fans still be running? This would also be determined on the battery condition and CCA. A battery with 500CCA will give 30 seconds of cranking at a big amperage without falling below a certain percentage of battery voltage. So if the starter is drawing 120 amps and fans 30 amps, that should not be a problem unless the battery is on the way out.
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EDIT: Cold cranking amperes (CCA) is the amount of current a battery can provide at 0 °F (−18 °C). The rating is defined as the current a lead-acid battery at that temperature can deliver for 30 seconds and maintain at least 1.2 volts per cell (7.2 volts for a 12-volt battery). It is a more demanding test than those at higher temperatures. This is the most widely used cranking measurement for comparison purposes.
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76-914   Electrical Question #15 Need Help Please   Apr 6 2014, 06:33 PM
Mike Bellis   I'm going to have several electrical question...   Apr 6 2014, 07:38 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Careful, not all model years are the same. Check ...   Apr 6 2014, 09:48 PM
Tom   I checked all of the schematics I can find and all...   Apr 7 2014, 03:04 AM
76-914   I checked all of the schematics I can find and al...   Apr 7 2014, 06:29 AM
76-914   Question #2 - Do I need to use a N/C relay off the...   Apr 7 2014, 06:37 AM
Tom   Kent, Don't know why as they don't dr...   Apr 7 2014, 11:37 AM
76-914   Damn, :chair: I didn't consider that the ECU ...   Apr 7 2014, 02:33 PM
76-914   #3 - What is the difference between a 5AG 30A fuse...   Apr 28 2014, 10:28 AM
Tom   Kent, The designations before the Amperage is f...   Apr 28 2014, 12:18 PM
76-914   Had to read thru some heavy stuff for my pea brain...   Apr 28 2014, 06:56 PM
Dtjaden   The easiest location for switched 12v on the relay...   Apr 29 2014, 08:39 AM
76-914   That could be useful info for someone that is usin...   Apr 29 2014, 08:59 AM
76-914   #4- I need to tie in my alt light with the suby en...   May 2 2014, 08:33 PM
Dave_Darling   Green/red would be the oil pressure light, not the...   May 2 2014, 10:07 PM
Mike Bellis   The alternator lamp work with 2 positive leads. On...   May 2 2014, 11:40 PM
Tom   That red/white that goes to fuse #9 on the fused s...   May 3 2014, 01:32 AM
76-914   Odd. I have one sch showing GR yet today I find th...   May 3 2014, 10:10 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Odd. I have one sch showing GR yet today I find t...   May 3 2014, 11:05 AM
jrrhdmust   That diagram was superseded., it was not correct. ...   Jun 4 2014, 03:33 PM
76-914   #5 - If you own a 914 you know the importance of a...   Jun 4 2014, 01:54 PM
ClayPerrine   #5 - If you own a 914 you know the importance of ...   Aug 9 2021, 01:38 PM
76-914   #5 - If you own a 914 you know the importance of...   Aug 9 2021, 02:29 PM
stugray   Cut & paste from my response to another forum ...   Jun 4 2014, 02:04 PM
76-914   Not completely confused, yet. :D You state that t...   Jun 4 2014, 02:39 PM
Dave_Darling   The short answer, which is close enough for our pu...   Jun 4 2014, 03:30 PM
IGTARD   :shades2: :shades2: :shades2: :shades2: Jumping...   Jun 4 2014, 04:34 PM
Tom   Kent, Answer for your question about wire size fo...   Jun 4 2014, 05:54 PM
76-914   Kent, Answer for your question about wire size f...   Jun 5 2014, 09:07 AM
76-914   OK, another stupid electrical question. I have not...   Sep 18 2014, 07:26 PM
Spoke   If I use the single pole style, which requires th...   Sep 19 2014, 05:20 AM
Mike Bellis   Your steel chassis should still be a better ground...   Sep 18 2014, 09:30 PM
76-914   I have one chassis to tranny ground, 2 chassis to ...   Sep 19 2014, 08:44 AM
76-914   #7 - I need to connect my stock '73 back up li...   Nov 7 2014, 08:30 PM
Spoke   Use the negative side to switch the backup lights ...   Nov 7 2014, 09:35 PM
stugray   For my stock trans w/ custom harness, I just took ...   Nov 7 2014, 11:52 PM
76-914   Use the negative side to switch the backup lights...   Nov 8 2014, 06:41 PM
76-914   Will one of our electrical wizards help me out wit...   Nov 22 2014, 02:36 PM
Tom   Kent, What are you using the neutral switch for...   Nov 22 2014, 03:54 PM
76-914   Kent, What are you using the neutral switch fo...   Nov 22 2014, 07:39 PM
Spoke   Nice circuit. I redrew it to better follow the fl...   Nov 23 2014, 10:57 AM
76-914   Well guess what. The Suby Computer didn't like...   Nov 23 2014, 08:44 PM
Spoke   Well guess what. The Suby Computer didn't lik...   Nov 24 2014, 09:55 AM
Mike Bellis   I have found on my Audi conversion the ECU likes t...   Nov 24 2014, 08:48 AM
76-914   Spoke, no direct connections between the ECU and r...   Nov 24 2014, 09:02 PM
Tom   Kent, If the gear selector is in neutral, wi...   Nov 25 2014, 03:22 AM
76-914   That is exactly what I plan to do plus check it wi...   Nov 25 2014, 09:11 AM
76-914   I wanted an "in use" indicator light in ...   Jul 5 2015, 09:36 PM
Tom   Kent, If you have a meter, check the resista...   Jul 6 2015, 03:01 AM
Spoke   Kent, If you have a meter, check the resist...   Jul 6 2015, 05:59 AM
76-914   Over my head. <_< What is "I" in...   Jul 6 2015, 08:53 AM
Spoke   I is current in the LED and resistor. Here's a...   Jul 6 2015, 10:41 AM
76-914   A million thank you's. :worship:   Jul 6 2015, 02:30 PM
76-914   Question #10 - After someone posted a question re:...   Oct 19 2015, 10:56 PM
76-914   :bump: back to pg 1.   Oct 21 2015, 08:26 AM
76-914   Question #11 - I want to lower my AC fan speeds ab...   Jul 13 2016, 06:05 PM
Spoke   Question #11 - I want to lower my AC fan speeds a...   Jul 13 2016, 11:22 PM
914forme   Video on how to draw simple schematics Question ...   Jul 13 2016, 06:19 PM
76-914   Video on how to draw simple schematics Question...   Jul 13 2016, 06:51 PM
stugray   EDIT: OK, I watched the video and I already knew ...   Jul 13 2016, 10:34 PM
stugray   The resistor would work, but for about the same am...   Jul 14 2016, 07:08 AM
76-914   Stu and Jerry; thx a million. I can't wait to ...   Jul 14 2016, 07:31 AM
76-914   Post #13. I'm at a Baker's Dozen so I...   Jul 27 2017, 01:57 PM
76-914   Never mind. Nailed it. I ohmed out the fuse holder...   Jul 27 2017, 10:08 PM
Spoke   Good find. That looks like a cheap QC connector. T...   Jul 27 2017, 11:39 PM
76-914   Good find. That looks like a cheap QC connector. ...   Jul 28 2017, 08:31 AM
76-914   This is one of those subjects that the more I read...   Nov 20 2017, 07:38 PM
Spoke   This is one of those subjects that the more I rea...   Nov 22 2017, 07:59 PM
76-914   :bump:   Nov 22 2017, 09:58 AM
76-914   Thanks for answering. Electrical issues remind me ...   Nov 23 2017, 10:25 AM
Spoke   Thanks for answering. Electrical issues remind me...   Nov 23 2017, 11:13 AM
76-914   Went back thru it and no power from the black lead...   Nov 23 2017, 01:29 PM
76-914   Hey Spoke, the switch was definitely the problem. ...   Nov 24 2017, 02:36 PM
76-914   Electrical Problem #15 As stated - I'm totally...   Aug 8 2021, 05:28 PM
Spoke   Seems confusing as the foglight switch should not ...   Aug 8 2021, 06:41 PM
76-914   Jerry, With the switch pulled out - on position - ...   Aug 9 2021, 01:33 PM
Spoke   Jerry, With the switch pulled out - on position -...   Aug 10 2021, 11:34 AM
76-914   Jerry, With the switch pulled out - on position ...   Aug 10 2021, 04:15 PM


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