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| Mblizzard |
May 7 2014, 09:08 AM
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I have a 1973 2.0 built to a 2056 running stock fuel injection. I am running points and I have verified the dwell and timing are correct. The air temperature sensor on the throttle body is disconnected due to it causing the engine to hunt excessively at idle. The valve were set less than 500 miles ago.
The car starts and runs fine on initial start. It at times has a little hesitation on acceleration due to the wear on the TPS board I think. As the engine warms up into the normal range, I experience a significant loss of power. The temp never goes past the "M" on the temp gauge. There is never any pinging. But there is just no instant response to pressing the accelerator that is present when the engine is cool. At times pushing the accelerator results in little or no engine response for a brief period and the engine almost stalls. I have checked numerous times for vacuum leaks, lose wires, and made sure the grounds are good. Checked the plugs and it does not appear to be running rich or lean. I tried to calibrate the TPS according to the Pelican article but never really got the readings as indicated in the article. I am going to go back through it one more time but I need some suggestions as to what I should check next? |
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May 7 2014, 09:10 AM
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did you recalibrate your MPS?
Do you have a knob on top of the ECU? If you do, turn it off, all the way. Rich |
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May 7 2014, 09:40 AM
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May 7 2014, 09:51 AM
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May 7 2014, 10:03 AM
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Have not redone the MPS. But while I am sure that will help overall, it does not seem like the MPS would cause this issue. It would if it was too lean or too rich at WOT OK just to be clear, I am asking the following question because I don't know the answer. I am not doubting your response. If I understand the MPS it essentially controls the length of the injector pulse based on manifold pressure. While there is a temp component in the overall system, the MPS does not change the pulse based on temp. Because this only occurs when the engine is warm, the MPS should be functioning correctly? |
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May 7 2014, 03:17 PM
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OK just to be clear, I am asking the following question because I don't know the answer. I am not doubting your response. If I understand the MPS it essentially controls the length of the injector pulse based on manifold pressure. While there is a temp component in the overall system, the MPS does not change the pulse based on temp. Because this only occurs when the engine is warm, the MPS should be functioning correctly? That depends on how well it really runs when it is cold. The enrichment part of the system could be masking problems that are caused by the MPS. A rich engine for example might run OK cold, or a lean one might be OK when the cold enrichment circuit is on and then not well when the engine warms up. Did it run ok before? People are suggesting the MPS because often a 2056 needs a tweak at the MPS to go with the non-stock engine. But, if it ran fine before with the stock MPS then that isn't an issue for you. |
Mblizzard D-Jet Fuel Injection Help May 7 2014, 09:08 AM
r_towle
Have not redone the MPS. But while I am sure t... May 7 2014, 10:00 AM
Cap'n Krusty I don't think idle CO adjustment is gonna solv... May 7 2014, 09:19 AM
The Cabinetmaker If you don't get that tps adjusted right, you... May 7 2014, 09:48 AM
Java2570 Are you still running those fuel injectors with mo... May 7 2014, 10:06 AM
Mblizzard
Are you still running those fuel injectors with m... May 7 2014, 10:10 AM
Jeff Bowlsby All the engine FI sensors are used to calculate he... May 7 2014, 10:12 AM
The Cabinetmaker Mike, what cam? May 7 2014, 11:36 AM
Mblizzard
Mike, what cam?
Stock cam. May 7 2014, 11:58 AM
r_towle To add to what Jeff said.
if your car is too hot,... May 7 2014, 12:52 PM
Mblizzard Ok so I took a closer look at the plugs and decide... May 7 2014, 02:31 PM
914_teener
Ok so I took a closer look at the plugs and decid... May 7 2014, 07:04 PM
Mblizzard
Ok so I took a closer look at the plugs and deci... May 7 2014, 07:50 PM
914_teener
[quote name='914_teener' post='2034722' date='May... May 7 2014, 09:15 PM
achman_73_2.0 Watching this thread carefully, maybe it will help... May 7 2014, 07:31 PM
Mblizzard
Watching this thread carefully, maybe it will hel... May 7 2014, 07:51 PM
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cary Search the word "stoic".
I have mine se... May 11 2014, 08:11 AM
Mblizzard
Search the word "stoic".
I have mine s... May 11 2014, 11:56 AM
r_towle Rich on accel, lean on DECEL....
Idle will be wha... May 11 2014, 04:12 PM
Mblizzard Oh so I got the AF Guage :) installed.
So under ... May 16 2014, 02:54 PM
Dave_Darling
What is the bust way to overcome the lean conditi... May 16 2014, 04:13 PM
Racer Chris
Is there a tool for holding the outer screw that ... May 16 2014, 04:36 PM

Mblizzard
Is there a tool for holding the outer screw that... May 16 2014, 05:42 PM
Bleyseng
Oh so I got the AF Guage :) installed.
So under... May 17 2014, 05:34 AM
r_towle is it lean all over the place?
If so, I have had ... May 16 2014, 03:25 PM
914_teener In another thread you posted the location of the w... May 16 2014, 03:57 PM
Mblizzard
In another thread you posted the location of the ... May 16 2014, 04:05 PM
Java2570 You may be able to get away with just adding some ... May 16 2014, 04:40 PM
Mblizzard Wow having the AF gauge made all the difference. ... May 16 2014, 05:31 PM
Java2570 Right on!! May 16 2014, 06:12 PM
Mblizzard Well I am getting closer to the ranges Chris sugge... May 17 2014, 12:55 PM
Racer Chris
Well I am getting closer to the ranges Chris sugg... May 17 2014, 02:48 PM
Mblizzard
Well I am getting closer to the ranges Chris sug... May 17 2014, 04:41 PM
Bleyseng Can you turn the WOT stop? On a MPS the first thin... May 18 2014, 05:42 AM
Mblizzard
Can you turn the WOT stop? On a MPS the first thi... May 18 2014, 07:51 AM![]() ![]() |
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