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Redhorseracing
post Jul 19 2014, 10:59 PM
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Hey guys,
So I have started to clear out my garage enough to be able to start thinking about where i want to go with my 914 project. But before I got too far I figured I would present my conundrum and see what you all think.

I am trying to get into racing as driving and building cars is my passion. The best place to start seems to be SCCA Club Racing. Of course I have read over the rule books over and over and my mind is numb trying to figure out all the classes and limitations. In a nutshell, my goal with the car is to build a car that I can compete with and do well in. Maybe not nationally but hopefully locally and regionally. ( I am in Orlando Florida btw) My sub-goal is to build a fast car. I currently drive a 440hp BMW M5 as my daily and am planning on selling it to fund this project and also buy a more useful tow vehicle and trailer. So I don't particularly want to build a stock 1.8, I'd like to have a bit more oomph to satisfy my cravings lol.

The original plan before I realized how strict some of the class rules are, was to put an LS2 with either a Boxster or G50 trans in it and a fiber glass body all around. But is that going to be a useful race car? I mostly drew that up by seeing Patrick Motorsports Blown V8 Monster build.

Now currently I have a 1.8 motor and a 901 transmission in my garage that I am selling.
What type of class would be the best to build towards? I know I know, everyone asks this question, but atleast I know a little bit:
I know that I cant afford a 914-6 conversion so no hyped up class, and that if I do a LS or equivalent conversion I go straight to XP.

My last car was a 2.0 that was built all from FAT parts in Cali and was a stroker and put down about 130hp. It wasn't too expensive and I would be able to easily build a motor like that again. If I were to stick to a 4 cyl would it even be useful to keep the 1.8 motor? Or should I just go straight to building a more powerful motor? Where in the mix of class is the 914 best?

I am also dabbling in the go kart world and plan on entering the Rok Cup next year, so I know my car wont be finished for atleast a year or two. But still I would like to draw up a game plan and start moving towards the end goal.

Thanks for all your time if you read this far
I look forward to hearing any advice you guys have.
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post Jul 23 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(Redhorseracing @ Jul 21 2014, 06:36 PM) *

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Jul 21 2014, 06:02 PM) *

Your main goal is to race wheel to wheel? Go to www.Chumpcar.com, click "Forum" and buy a ride in the "Seats for sale" section. Expect to spend around $1000 to get a seat in the upcoming 14 hours of Sebring in September. Do that a couple of times, then start volunteering at SCCA club events. You'll get a much better idea of what goes into building and running a competitive car at various levels.

I'm with the others on this one - if you want to build a car that's anywhere near as fast as your street M5, don't even bother with a 914 unless you're willing to spend upwards of $200,000. A better starting point would be to buy a used Spec Miata - you'd learn more, have more fun and spend less over the long run.

Or, as others have said, you can stick to vintage racing or perhaps F-production. But it will still cost you more to run either than it would to find a used Miata and get out there sooner rather than later.


Chump car is very interesting!! I wonder if I could get my car ready in time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
Just cage it and rock my steel wheels and no bumpers! lol
I'll definitely look into it!

Ok so F production.. All I see on the F production is the 1.7 and 1.8 and on the E production I see the 2.0 and the 914-6!!. Am I wrong to say that the 914 would be better suited for F with a 1.8? Seems to me like a 914-4 in E would be over its head and a 1.8 is sure to beat a 1.7 in F.
Also, I am slightly confused with the level 1 and level 2 rules for FP. Do you just follow whichever one you fancy?
Again thank you for all the responses and patience to deal with a noob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


There will be a Bunch of us running Chump at Sebring. It will be my 1st Chump effort & hope that it is a lot of fun. I'm running a Toyota GTS with a bunch of SCCA Guys out of Jacksonville
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Redhorseracing   Give a New Racer Some Guidance!   Jul 19 2014, 10:59 PM
URY914   I don't know where to start to reply to this.   Jul 20 2014, 08:48 AM
campbellcj   (LOL, OK Paul, I'll try to start...) I think ...   Jul 20 2014, 10:50 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   (LOL, OK Paul, I'll try to start...) You pro...   Jul 20 2014, 12:04 PM
J P Stein   It's best to start with a wheel barrow full of...   Jul 20 2014, 11:45 AM
brant   just my 2 cents also. I really recommend folks th...   Jul 20 2014, 11:47 AM
Redhorseracing   Thank you guys for the replies I really do appreci...   Jul 20 2014, 12:38 PM
brant   Thank you guys for the replies I really do apprec...   Jul 20 2014, 01:25 PM
Racer Chris   the 914 can be competitive absolutely but in scca...   Jul 20 2014, 04:35 PM
campbellcj   I would probably be comfortable spending upward...   Jul 20 2014, 01:51 PM
mepstein   Brad at 914ltd is selling a 914 race car with a 3....   Jul 20 2014, 02:05 PM
jhadler   You are confusing me in your responses.... In you...   Jul 21 2014, 12:26 PM
Redhorseracing   You are confusing me in your responses.... In yo...   Jul 21 2014, 01:45 PM
jhadler   Don't be fooled. F-Prod is not a cheap class. ...   Jul 21 2014, 02:06 PM
brant   I thought XP was an autox classification and not a...   Jul 21 2014, 02:10 PM
jhadler   The SCCA rules are generally exclusive by design. ...   Jul 21 2014, 02:11 PM
ThePaintedMan   Your main goal is to race wheel to wheel? Go to ww...   Jul 21 2014, 04:02 PM
Redhorseracing   Your main goal is to race wheel to wheel? Go to w...   Jul 21 2014, 04:36 PM
bam914   You can also run a 914 in H production. It is a l...   Jul 21 2014, 04:11 PM
bam914   In the spec line for the car it will say Level 1 o...   Jul 21 2014, 05:29 PM
brant   George, when you run in chump.... is there any b...   Jul 21 2014, 08:40 PM
ThePaintedMan   Brant, I have now run 4 chump events and I pers...   Jul 21 2014, 09:21 PM
brant   Brant, I have now run 4 chump events and I per...   Jul 23 2014, 03:22 PM
campbellcj   I would also give Boxster Spec a look if there is ...   Jul 21 2014, 11:30 PM
Seabird   Redhorse, You should come out to the next NASA ev...   Jul 23 2014, 10:03 AM
Heater Guy   Check with your region. If you change engine type ...   Jul 23 2014, 12:20 PM
carr914   [quote name='ThePaintedMan' post='2064268' date='...   Jul 23 2014, 12:44 PM
Redhorseracing   [quote name='ThePaintedMan' post='2064268' date=...   Jul 23 2014, 12:48 PM
carr914   I got the last seat. But you can go on Chumpcar.co...   Jul 23 2014, 02:07 PM


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