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> 914/6 oil leak, Case stud question
bcheney
post Oct 12 2014, 12:53 PM
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I have an original 6 engine in my 6 conversion car. I have an oil leak at the stud circled in the pic below. I have tried to torque the nut on this stud without success. I then double nutted the stud to see if maybe the stud and become loose. I was able to turn the stud in a bit so I thought I was making progress. When I removed the double nuts and placed a washer and nut back on to torque to value it won't snug up. Instead, as I torque the nut...the stud begins to turn out. I have a bad feeling about this....Please chime in with your wisdom.


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sixnotfour
post Oct 12 2014, 06:51 PM
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brake clean the hole see if you can grab a few threads deeper if so . epoxy and a few threads and light torque saves you...ya not 100% correct but saves you time and $$$ all of the mag cases need a timesert in that location.. I have seen many of that stud glued in to solve the leak.. or have you're engine rebuilt and spend $$$ this stud is not that crucial.
But every case I do gets a insert on this stud...they all pull this one...
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post Oct 29 2014, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Oct 12 2014, 08:51 PM) *

brake clean the hole see if you can grab a few threads deeper if so . epoxy and a few threads and light torque saves you...ya not 100% correct but saves you time and $$$ all of the mag cases need a timesert in that location.. I have seen many of that stud glued in to solve the leak.. or have you're engine rebuilt and spend $$$ this stud is not that crucial.
But every case I do gets a insert on this stud...they all pull this one...


Gonna try to fix this today on my day off. I appreciate all the comments. Why do they all seem to pull this one? Really hope I can have some success. Would be shame to have to split case. If it comes to that I most likely would have to do this myself. Approx. how many hours would it take a pro to handle the correct repair with a timesert? You would want to repair all the studs with certs wouldn't ya?
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post Oct 29 2014, 07:59 AM
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Gonna try to fix this today on my day off. I appreciate all the comments. Why do they all seem to pull this one? Really hope I can have some success. Would be shame to have to split case. If it comes to that I most likely would have to do this myself. Approx. how many hours would it take a pro to handle the correct repair with a timesert? You would want to repair all the studs with certs wouldn't ya?



It depends if you are taking the engine apart and reassembling it yourself or
do you plan on taking it to a shop for it all?

You could easily have the engine apart in 2 to 3 hrs. As for the time certs you could also do that if you know what you are doing. I would insert all of the inside studs.
The mag cases will all pull these studs at some point in time and doing it while apart is cheap insurance. Did you have the head studs done ? If not plan on doing those too. I used Ollie's for my 2.7 build and was happy with the service there. I put my engine together taking my time over a two week period. I'm sure it could be done within 2 days if you have the time.
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post Oct 29 2014, 09:40 AM
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Ok I removed the stud just a little while ago and the pics tell the story...As they say...that's racin...I am sad that my -6 is gonna be down for an extended period of time now... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) If anyone has anything encouraging to say please chime in.



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bcheney   914/6 oil leak   Oct 12 2014, 12:53 PM
Luke M   By the sounds of things the stud is pulling from t...   Oct 12 2014, 12:59 PM
bcheney   By the sounds of things the stud is pulling from ...   Oct 12 2014, 01:25 PM
Luke M   By the sounds of things the stud is pulling from...   Oct 12 2014, 02:28 PM
Mark Henry   . You may try the epoxy route but I don't thi...   Oct 12 2014, 02:43 PM
Mark Henry   Clean it up real good to bare metal, degrease it a...   Oct 12 2014, 02:08 PM
GeorgeRud   I had the same thing happen to me many years ago. ...   Oct 12 2014, 02:13 PM
bcheney   I had the same thing happen to me many years ago....   Oct 12 2014, 02:37 PM
rfuerst911sc   Brian sorry to hear I don't visit here often s...   Oct 12 2014, 02:46 PM
johnhora   Sorry to say I have had that same problem and noth...   Oct 12 2014, 05:45 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I fixed one without taking the engine apart. Bore...   Oct 12 2014, 06:24 PM
bcheney   I fixed one without taking the engine apart. Bor...   Oct 12 2014, 06:49 PM
sixnotfour   brake clean the hole see if you can grab a few thr...   Oct 12 2014, 06:51 PM
bcheney   brake clean the hole see if you can grab a few th...   Oct 29 2014, 05:22 AM
Luke M   It depends if you are taking the engine apart a...   Oct 29 2014, 07:59 AM
bcheney   Ok I removed the stud just a little while ago and ...   Oct 29 2014, 09:40 AM
carr914   Did you send the picture to Mike? Tell Leslie she...   Oct 29 2014, 06:27 AM
Luke M   That doesn't look good.. It's time to spli...   Oct 29 2014, 12:00 PM
bob   I had the same thing. I cleaned out the stripped t...   Oct 29 2014, 12:36 PM
bcheney   I had the same thing. I cleaned out the stripped ...   Oct 29 2014, 01:10 PM
gereed75   I had the same thing. I cleaned out the stripped...   Oct 29 2014, 01:22 PM
bcheney   [quote name='bcheney' post='2104066' date='Oct 29...   Oct 29 2014, 04:04 PM
bob   I forget where I found the tap. (maybe McMasterCar...   Oct 29 2014, 01:40 PM
bcheney   I forget where I found the tap. (maybe McMasterCa...   Oct 29 2014, 04:05 PM
bob   yeah. I measured the original stud and the hole. t...   Oct 29 2014, 05:42 PM
gereed75   sorry I did not post sooner. Just got to the shop...   Nov 1 2014, 08:53 AM
bcheney   sorry I did not post sooner. Just got to the sho...   Nov 1 2014, 03:16 PM
bcheney   yeah. I measured the original stud and the hole. ...   Nov 2 2014, 10:04 PM
bcheney   yeah. I measured the original stud and the hole. ...   Nov 6 2014, 06:17 AM
gereed75   Never thought that the threads might go deeper. It...   Nov 1 2014, 05:07 PM
wndsnd   Not sure the threads are deeper but I do think the...   Nov 1 2014, 05:19 PM
sixnotfour   http://www.mcmaster.com/#99067A248 you cut to cut...   Nov 2 2014, 10:20 PM
sixnotfour   darn double post :beer2:   Nov 2 2014, 10:23 PM
bob   that sux... sorry to hear that the depth is differ...   Nov 6 2014, 06:55 AM
bcheney   that sux... sorry to hear that the depth is diffe...   Nov 6 2014, 09:15 AM
gereed75   I had a chance to pull this stud yesterday. The de...   Nov 9 2014, 09:32 AM
bcheney   I had a chance to pull this stud yesterday. The d...   Nov 9 2014, 05:26 PM
Luke M   [quote name='gereed75' post='2108416' date='Nov 9...   Nov 9 2014, 06:10 PM
gereed75   I have a couple of Ideas depending on what all I d...   Nov 9 2014, 06:15 PM
gereed75   Bcheney, check your PM's. And I see from pre...   Nov 14 2014, 11:07 AM
mepstein   Get a pro to time sert. See what Joe O'brien c...   Nov 6 2014, 07:23 AM


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