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| Allan |
Aug 24 2004, 09:42 AM
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Teenerless Weenie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Any politicos here that can interpret this stuff? What happens now that it's been amended or if it dosn't get finalized before the Senate adjourns next month?
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| dmenche914 |
Aug 24 2004, 01:18 PM
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WARNING, DANGER!
This Bill is still BULL, the latest admendment kind of gives it a candy coating, by allowing "collector" cars of 35 years or older to be exempt from visual, but still must pass tail pipe. First off, it the admendment requires collector car insurance, to qualify as a collector car, which means in most case limited milage, car must be garaged, etc...., The Warning Danger thing is the age of "collector" cars as defined in the Bill, it is 35 years or 1970 cars today. So if you have a 1970 collector car (but no newer than that) you will only be required to pass tail pipe test. This is the new admendment! This is worse than the un-admended Bill, which gave total smog test exemption for any car older than 1976 (Verses current law which is a 30 year rolling exemption). The Admendment for collector cars is completely worthless, as the only cars that it protects are ones that are already exempt by this Bill. Upon analyzing the possible reasons for such an admendment I conclude the reason is to put something in place for next years bill which would logically kill the smog test exemption for 30 year old plus cars, and instead make ALL cars test for smog (probably exempt pre 1965 cars, as they had no smog requirements). This new admendment will be the end of the current smog test exemption for older cars unless they are 35 years or older, and registered / insured as collector cars, with all the limitations . So if this thing goes forward, and the follow on Admendments or Bill get passed in the next year, I suspect soon all 1966 and newer cars will be smog tested again, and the only out will be for collector cars, which must be at least 35 years old, so at first, only the 1970 914 would be exempted, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76 914's will all be required to pass smog again, tail pipe and visual. Many of us will be screwed. This is what we are now up aginst, this Bill if passed, will be the first of two, the second will make all cars that had smog control (1965 and newer likely) be tested, with a partial exemption for 35 year old collector cars. Bend Over and Take It, or Stand Up and Contact All the Senators, and the Govenor and Let Them Know How to Vote on This. Have You Friends, Family, Etc do the same, we have got to stop this Bill, it is getting worse and is just the first step to having all our 914's get smogged again. Please feel free to post this on other car sites, we need to get the word out how bad this Bill has just become. dave |
Headrage Ca. Smog Law Changes Aug 24 2004, 09:42 AM
lapuwali Very, very interesting.
My read on this is that t... Aug 24 2004, 10:19 AM
Marty Yeoman Am I wrong or does it say:
Sec 2 Section 44011 of... Aug 24 2004, 01:46 PM
! Has to go thru BOTH houses again....my opinion the... Aug 24 2004, 02:16 PM
Headrage (6) Prior to Ja... Aug 24 2004, 03:05 PM
dmenche914 Right now, current law is 30 year rolling exemptio... Aug 24 2004, 03:29 PM
lapuwali I have to disagree that the admendment is worthles... Aug 24 2004, 05:06 PM
dmenche914 then again, if my car was 35 plus years old, and r... Aug 24 2004, 07:03 PM
Brad Roberts You'll love this:
BUY BOXSTERS... :D
B Aug 24 2004, 07:08 PM
dmenche914 Geer Ugh, oh well, Had to come to that, but I rat... Aug 24 2004, 07:29 PM
Cap'n Krusty "Maybe all 914's are exempt. I don't think... Aug 24 2004, 08:10 PM
elwood-914 In Amador County, we don't have manditory smog... Aug 24 2004, 10:23 PM
Headrage Additional action has occurred.
http://www.leginf... Aug 25 2004, 10:15 AM
dmenche914 Ok, back to the Assembly, where it already has pas... Aug 25 2004, 11:12 AM
mikester If I'm required to pass the tail pipe test and... Aug 25 2004, 11:56 AM
lapuwali That's the idea of dropping the visual, which ... Aug 25 2004, 12:19 PM
Cloudbuster ... Aug 25 2004, 12:45 PM
lapuwali The bill DOESN'T add '66 - '75 cars ba... Aug 25 2004, 01:09 PM
SirAndy ... Aug 25 2004, 01:22 PM
Cloudbuster ... Aug 25 2004, 02:05 PM
dmenche914 The real danger is if the 35 year classic exemptin... Aug 25 2004, 02:55 PM
lapuwali Dave, you really have to stop being so angry over ... Aug 25 2004, 04:07 PM
Headrage Another update. Don't know what it means when... Aug 26 2004, 12:46 PM
lapuwali Rule 77 (looked this up) has to do with procedures... Aug 26 2004, 01:28 PM
Headrage Anyone know how we could collectively oppose this ... Aug 26 2004, 01:31 PM
Headrage Here's another update. What the hell does all... Aug 27 2004, 10:56 AM
Headrage Sorry, was so pissed I forgot to add the link. :an... Aug 27 2004, 11:00 AM
dflesburg What do you expect from the place that made it oka... Aug 27 2004, 11:17 AM
mikester I know they are trying to get this in before the s... Aug 27 2004, 11:49 AM
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Headrage Actually wouldn't it be '76 and older if i... Aug 27 2004, 12:14 PM
lapuwali Yes, but if this bill passes into law, the cutoff ... Aug 27 2004, 12:26 PM
Headrage I don't know if this is good or bad. I notice... Aug 28 2004, 09:44 PM
Headrage :bump: Aug 29 2004, 03:40 PM
dmenche914 Not a clue what that means, but there is the the A... Aug 29 2004, 04:55 PM
! It's dead....2nd year bills rarely pass..... Aug 29 2004, 05:56 PM
Brando my comment from this post on PAPBB:
California al... Aug 29 2004, 09:24 PM
! First off...MOST if not ALL of the crappy re-tread... Aug 29 2004, 09:29 PM
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