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| pilothyer |
Nov 2 2014, 08:40 PM
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I am interested in building a 2270 engine. From what I can see I will need a stroker crank with a 78 mm throw. I am concerned about which rod to choose. I have seen stroker cranks with VW type 1 journals as well as 2.0 liter and chevy. I have noticed variations in rod lengths as well. I am in need of some advise on a good, proven combination. I know there are many good engine builders on his forum that could share their knowledge on this subject so please do...............Thanks
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| Dave_Darling |
Nov 5 2014, 10:40 AM
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Part of the disagreement would appear to be that you guys are using two different definitions of "less heat". I believe that Jake is saying that less heat was staying in the heads and in the oil, while DB was referring to the overall heat produced by the engine, including those and heat being radiated away and heat coming out the exhaust, etc.
Physics is physics; to make more power you burn more fuel and produce more total heat. But that heat does not have to go into the heads and into the oil; it can leave through the exhaust among other things. And my guess (just a guess!) is that this is how both of you can be right at the same time... --DD |
| Jake Raby |
Nov 5 2014, 11:17 AM
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Part of the disagreement would appear to be that you guys are using two different definitions of "less heat". I believe that Jake is saying that less heat was staying in the heads and in the oil, while DB was referring to the overall heat produced by the engine, including those and heat being radiated away and heat coming out the exhaust, etc. Physics is physics; to make more power you burn more fuel and produce more total heat. But that heat does not have to go into the heads and into the oil; it can leave through the exhaust among other things. And my guess (just a guess!) is that this is how both of you can be right at the same time... --DD This is why people disagree on forums, so often. If bigger engines melted down, no matter what, we'd all be driving around in 3 cylinder Geo Metros. |
pilothyer 2270 Build Nov 2 2014, 08:40 PM
Hine62 Check out:
Your Current Type IV Build
Engine Build... Nov 3 2014, 05:39 AM
Mark Henry Use the type 1 rod journal, stock type 1 length CB... Nov 3 2014, 08:48 AM
pilothyer
Use the type 1 rod journal, stock type 1 length C... Nov 3 2014, 04:26 PM
grimmel OR....insert a used non-turbo Subie 2.5....and nev... Nov 3 2014, 11:59 AM
Jetsetsurfshop I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case. ... Nov 3 2014, 06:19 PM
Hine62
I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case.... Nov 3 2014, 09:00 PM
Jetsetsurfshop
I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case... Nov 3 2014, 09:27 PM
Jake Raby
Not if it adds efficiency.
Its all in the combo. Nov 3 2014, 07:41 PM
DBCooper
Not if it adds efficiency.
Its all in the combo... Nov 5 2014, 06:18 AM
Jake Raby
Not if it adds efficiency.
Its all in the comb... Nov 5 2014, 07:32 AM
craig downs That's true, my head temp always run at 275 - ... Nov 3 2014, 07:52 PM
Jetsetsurfshop
That's true, my head temp always run at 275 -... Nov 3 2014, 07:57 PM
Jake Raby
That's true, my head temp always run at 275 -... Nov 3 2014, 08:28 PM
Jetsetsurfshop
That's true, my head temp always run at 275 ... Nov 3 2014, 08:55 PM
DBCooper Sure, if you never use WOT you won't produce m... Nov 5 2014, 07:47 AM
davep It really comes down to fuel consumption; fuel = h... Nov 5 2014, 07:57 AM
Jake Raby
He's talking about a street car here. Sure he... Nov 5 2014, 08:28 AM
DBCooper
Odd, I never knew that you were a Physicist.
No ... Nov 5 2014, 10:12 AM
Jake Raby
My advice is to make so much power that all of i... Nov 5 2014, 10:35 AM
r_towle
My advice is to make so much power that all of ... Nov 5 2014, 02:58 PM
Jake Raby
My advice is to make so much power that all of... Nov 5 2014, 05:15 PM
r_towle
[quote name='r_towle' post='2106728' date='Nov 5 ... Nov 5 2014, 05:32 PM
DBCooper
I never said that more power does not increase mo... Nov 5 2014, 12:27 PM
gereed75 not to jump in (there are plenty of people already... Nov 5 2014, 01:01 PM
Jake Raby
And some never do.
I have guys that have been ... Nov 5 2014, 02:23 PM
Jake Raby I knew what you were doing.. No biggie.
I bet tha... Nov 5 2014, 05:37 PM
r_towle This is your business, everyone knows that.
For ma... Nov 5 2014, 05:39 PM
Jake Raby
This is your business, everyone knows that.
For m... Nov 5 2014, 07:40 PM
r_towle
This is your business, everyone knows that.
For ... Nov 10 2014, 06:08 PM
Jake Raby
[quote name='Jake Raby' post='2106830' date='Nov ... Nov 10 2014, 06:58 PM
r_towle
[quote name='Jake Raby' post='2106830' date='Nov... Nov 11 2014, 07:04 AM
JimN73 This thread brings up a couple of things that I ha... Nov 10 2014, 10:45 AM
Woody If you built a 2.4 with huge bore and a small stro... Nov 11 2014, 07:26 AM
Jake Raby Here's the 2.6L MassIVe engine thats in my 356... Nov 11 2014, 08:58 AM
Jake Raby Here's a pic of the engine just after being bo... Nov 11 2014, 08:59 AM
McMark I knew there was a reason I didn't open this t... Nov 11 2014, 01:36 PM
Woody
I knew there was a reason I didn't open this ... Nov 11 2014, 01:39 PM
r_towle Have you tried Solex carbs? Nov 11 2014, 02:54 PM
Jake Raby
Have you tried Solex carbs?
Absolutely.. Solid ... Nov 11 2014, 09:08 PM
r_towle Agreed on dells but I really became fond of the So... Nov 11 2014, 09:10 PM
Jake Raby
Agreed on dells but I really became fond of the S... Nov 11 2014, 09:24 PM![]() ![]() |
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