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pilothyer
post Nov 2 2014, 08:40 PM
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I am interested in building a 2270 engine. From what I can see I will need a stroker crank with a 78 mm throw. I am concerned about which rod to choose. I have seen stroker cranks with VW type 1 journals as well as 2.0 liter and chevy. I have noticed variations in rod lengths as well. I am in need of some advise on a good, proven combination. I know there are many good engine builders on his forum that could share their knowledge on this subject so please do...............Thanks
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post Nov 5 2014, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Nov 5 2014, 08:35 AM) *

I never said that more power does not increase more heat....

You didn't say that? I could have sworn... oh, yeah, here it is, right here:

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. Just remember that HP=heat.

Not if it adds efficiency.


QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Nov 5 2014, 08:35 AM) *

All that said, it's all in the combo- yet it may take you over 1,000 tries to learn that. One thing is for sure, you damn sure won't learn it sitting in front of a monitor and keyboard.

Jake, any competent mechanic learns early on that matching parts is the key to efficiency. I'm retired now so I learned that long before you built your first engine. And my teacher was a guy who learned that same lesson before I was born, so no news there. Getting the combinations right? That takes longer, no question, and that's exactly the question posed by the original poster about optimum combinations for a 2270. So you're the expert, do you have any suggestions for him? I mean other than just buying parts from your store?

You're right, Dave, two different things that are the same. If someone's paying a whole lot of money for more horsepower one has to assume they're going to use it. Is any other assumption reasonable? If you have twice the horsepower (and use it) you'll generate twice the heat, meaning you need to dissipate it. No question there either, right? Not going to create enough heat to hurt anything? Perhaps, since no one's melting down Jake's engines. But that in no way means they generate less heat, as long as they burn fuel that potential's all still there, they apparently just aren't being used hard enough to hurt anything. And of course any marginal additional heat generated is being managed, so good job Jake and God Bless Joe Locicero.

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pilothyer   2270 Build   Nov 2 2014, 08:40 PM
Hine62   Check out: Your Current Type IV Build Engine Build...   Nov 3 2014, 05:39 AM
Mark Henry   Use the type 1 rod journal, stock type 1 length CB...   Nov 3 2014, 08:48 AM
pilothyer   Use the type 1 rod journal, stock type 1 length C...   Nov 3 2014, 04:26 PM
grimmel   OR....insert a used non-turbo Subie 2.5....and nev...   Nov 3 2014, 11:59 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case. ...   Nov 3 2014, 06:19 PM
Hine62   I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case....   Nov 3 2014, 09:00 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case...   Nov 3 2014, 09:27 PM
Jake Raby   Not if it adds efficiency. Its all in the combo.   Nov 3 2014, 07:41 PM
DBCooper   Not if it adds efficiency. Its all in the combo...   Nov 5 2014, 06:18 AM
Jake Raby   Not if it adds efficiency. Its all in the comb...   Nov 5 2014, 07:32 AM
craig downs   That's true, my head temp always run at 275 - ...   Nov 3 2014, 07:52 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   That's true, my head temp always run at 275 -...   Nov 3 2014, 07:57 PM
Jake Raby   That's true, my head temp always run at 275 -...   Nov 3 2014, 08:28 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   That's true, my head temp always run at 275 ...   Nov 3 2014, 08:55 PM
DBCooper   Sure, if you never use WOT you won't produce m...   Nov 5 2014, 07:47 AM
davep   It really comes down to fuel consumption; fuel = h...   Nov 5 2014, 07:57 AM
Jake Raby   He's talking about a street car here. Sure he...   Nov 5 2014, 08:28 AM
DBCooper   Odd, I never knew that you were a Physicist. No ...   Nov 5 2014, 10:12 AM
Jake Raby   My advice is to make so much power that all of i...   Nov 5 2014, 10:35 AM
r_towle   My advice is to make so much power that all of ...   Nov 5 2014, 02:58 PM
Jake Raby   My advice is to make so much power that all of...   Nov 5 2014, 05:15 PM
r_towle   [quote name='r_towle' post='2106728' date='Nov 5 ...   Nov 5 2014, 05:32 PM
Dave_Darling   Part of the disagreement would appear to be that y...   Nov 5 2014, 10:40 AM
Jake Raby   Part of the disagreement would appear to be that ...   Nov 5 2014, 11:17 AM
DBCooper   I never said that more power does not increase mo...   Nov 5 2014, 12:27 PM
gereed75   not to jump in (there are plenty of people already...   Nov 5 2014, 01:01 PM
Jake Raby   And some never do. I have guys that have been ...   Nov 5 2014, 02:23 PM
Jake Raby   I knew what you were doing.. No biggie. I bet tha...   Nov 5 2014, 05:37 PM
r_towle   This is your business, everyone knows that. For ma...   Nov 5 2014, 05:39 PM
Jake Raby   This is your business, everyone knows that. For m...   Nov 5 2014, 07:40 PM
r_towle   This is your business, everyone knows that. For ...   Nov 10 2014, 06:08 PM
Jake Raby   [quote name='Jake Raby' post='2106830' date='Nov ...   Nov 10 2014, 06:58 PM
r_towle   [quote name='Jake Raby' post='2106830' date='Nov...   Nov 11 2014, 07:04 AM
JimN73   This thread brings up a couple of things that I ha...   Nov 10 2014, 10:45 AM
Woody   If you built a 2.4 with huge bore and a small stro...   Nov 11 2014, 07:26 AM
Jake Raby   Here's the 2.6L MassIVe engine thats in my 356...   Nov 11 2014, 08:58 AM
Jake Raby   Here's a pic of the engine just after being bo...   Nov 11 2014, 08:59 AM
McMark   I knew there was a reason I didn't open this t...   Nov 11 2014, 01:36 PM
Woody   I knew there was a reason I didn't open this ...   Nov 11 2014, 01:39 PM
r_towle   Have you tried Solex carbs?   Nov 11 2014, 02:54 PM
Jake Raby   Have you tried Solex carbs? Absolutely.. Solid ...   Nov 11 2014, 09:08 PM
r_towle   Agreed on dells but I really became fond of the So...   Nov 11 2014, 09:10 PM
Jake Raby   Agreed on dells but I really became fond of the S...   Nov 11 2014, 09:24 PM


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