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| pilothyer |
Nov 2 2014, 08:40 PM
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I am interested in building a 2270 engine. From what I can see I will need a stroker crank with a 78 mm throw. I am concerned about which rod to choose. I have seen stroker cranks with VW type 1 journals as well as 2.0 liter and chevy. I have noticed variations in rod lengths as well. I am in need of some advise on a good, proven combination. I know there are many good engine builders on his forum that could share their knowledge on this subject so please do...............Thanks
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| Jake Raby |
Nov 5 2014, 10:35 AM
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE So your advice is to use part throttle to keep the heat down? Good to know. My advice is to make so much power that all of it is never, ever needed. I never said that more power does not increase more heat, thats very basic, just like more fuel is always required to make more power to generate that heat. What I did say was a proper combination, that makes plenty of power can equal a cooler running street engine, and that engine can even use less fuel. Thats what I have been applying for 22 years. Have you EVER read a post where anyone complained of my engines running hot? Nope. All that said, it's all in the combo- yet it may take you over 1,000 tries to learn that. One thing is for sure, you damn sure won't learn it sitting in front of a monitor and keyboard. |
| r_towle |
Nov 5 2014, 02:58 PM
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My advice is to make so much power that all of it is never, ever needed. I am sorry but I was always under the impression that you don't have enough power until you can do a burn out from the exit of one corner all the way to the entrance of the next corner. Never is a very powerful word that I could not comply with and still be a car guy. |
| Jake Raby |
Nov 5 2014, 05:15 PM
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
My advice is to make so much power that all of it is never, ever needed. I am sorry but I was always under the impression that you don't have enough power until you can do a burn out from the exit of one corner all the way to the entrance of the next corner. Never is a very powerful word that I could not comply with and still be a car guy. And since you are losing traction during that burnout, engine load is decreased and the engine temps would take longer to create heat soak. Until that car could do a burnout constantly, for hundreds of miles, it still doesn't have enough power... Or rubber, or traction. Around 1400 engines have left my facility. These are as early as a pre A 356, and as late as a 2014 Cayman S with everything in between from 4 cam Fuhrmann Carrera through 9a1. To date I have never, not once ever had anyone state that they didn't have enough power after my processes were completed. |
| r_towle |
Nov 5 2014, 05:32 PM
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My advice is to make so much power that all of it is never, ever needed. I am sorry but I was always under the impression that you don't have enough power until you can do a burn out from the exit of one corner all the way to the entrance of the next corner. Never is a very powerful word that I could not comply with and still be a car guy. And since you are losing traction during that burnout, engine load is decreased and the engine temps would take longer to create heat soak. Until that car could do a burnout constantly, for hundreds of miles, it still doesn't have enough power... Or rubber, or traction. Around 1400 engines have left my facility. These are as early as a pre A 356, and as late as a 2014 Cayman S with everything in between from 4 cam Fuhrmann Carrera through 9a1. To date I have never, not once ever had anyone state that they didn't have enough power after my processes were completed. Actually, I was trying to lighten the mood Jake. It was a joke. I suppose we could bring in the East Coast thread killing squad.... I do thank you for posting details on an engine combo that would help a lot of folks out with a basic and fun 2270 . Honestly, thanks for sharing that. Keep building and share when you can, that is what makes these forums great. Rich |
pilothyer 2270 Build Nov 2 2014, 08:40 PM
Hine62 Check out:
Your Current Type IV Build
Engine Build... Nov 3 2014, 05:39 AM
Mark Henry Use the type 1 rod journal, stock type 1 length CB... Nov 3 2014, 08:48 AM
pilothyer
Use the type 1 rod journal, stock type 1 length C... Nov 3 2014, 04:26 PM
grimmel OR....insert a used non-turbo Subie 2.5....and nev... Nov 3 2014, 11:59 AM
Jetsetsurfshop I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case. ... Nov 3 2014, 06:19 PM
Hine62
I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case.... Nov 3 2014, 09:00 PM
Jetsetsurfshop
I did a 78mm crank and had to clearance the case... Nov 3 2014, 09:27 PM
Jake Raby
Not if it adds efficiency.
Its all in the combo. Nov 3 2014, 07:41 PM
DBCooper
Not if it adds efficiency.
Its all in the combo... Nov 5 2014, 06:18 AM
Jake Raby
Not if it adds efficiency.
Its all in the comb... Nov 5 2014, 07:32 AM
craig downs That's true, my head temp always run at 275 - ... Nov 3 2014, 07:52 PM
Jetsetsurfshop
That's true, my head temp always run at 275 -... Nov 3 2014, 07:57 PM
Jake Raby
That's true, my head temp always run at 275 -... Nov 3 2014, 08:28 PM
Jetsetsurfshop
That's true, my head temp always run at 275 ... Nov 3 2014, 08:55 PM
DBCooper Sure, if you never use WOT you won't produce m... Nov 5 2014, 07:47 AM
davep It really comes down to fuel consumption; fuel = h... Nov 5 2014, 07:57 AM
Jake Raby
He's talking about a street car here. Sure he... Nov 5 2014, 08:28 AM
DBCooper
Odd, I never knew that you were a Physicist.
No ... Nov 5 2014, 10:12 AM
Dave_Darling Part of the disagreement would appear to be that y... Nov 5 2014, 10:40 AM
Jake Raby
Part of the disagreement would appear to be that ... Nov 5 2014, 11:17 AM
DBCooper
I never said that more power does not increase mo... Nov 5 2014, 12:27 PM
gereed75 not to jump in (there are plenty of people already... Nov 5 2014, 01:01 PM
Jake Raby
And some never do.
I have guys that have been ... Nov 5 2014, 02:23 PM
Jake Raby I knew what you were doing.. No biggie.
I bet tha... Nov 5 2014, 05:37 PM
r_towle This is your business, everyone knows that.
For ma... Nov 5 2014, 05:39 PM
Jake Raby
This is your business, everyone knows that.
For m... Nov 5 2014, 07:40 PM
r_towle
This is your business, everyone knows that.
For ... Nov 10 2014, 06:08 PM
Jake Raby
[quote name='Jake Raby' post='2106830' date='Nov ... Nov 10 2014, 06:58 PM
r_towle
[quote name='Jake Raby' post='2106830' date='Nov... Nov 11 2014, 07:04 AM
JimN73 This thread brings up a couple of things that I ha... Nov 10 2014, 10:45 AM
Woody If you built a 2.4 with huge bore and a small stro... Nov 11 2014, 07:26 AM
Jake Raby Here's the 2.6L MassIVe engine thats in my 356... Nov 11 2014, 08:58 AM
Jake Raby Here's a pic of the engine just after being bo... Nov 11 2014, 08:59 AM
McMark I knew there was a reason I didn't open this t... Nov 11 2014, 01:36 PM
Woody
I knew there was a reason I didn't open this ... Nov 11 2014, 01:39 PM
r_towle Have you tried Solex carbs? Nov 11 2014, 02:54 PM
Jake Raby
Have you tried Solex carbs?
Absolutely.. Solid ... Nov 11 2014, 09:08 PM
r_towle Agreed on dells but I really became fond of the So... Nov 11 2014, 09:10 PM
Jake Raby
Agreed on dells but I really became fond of the S... Nov 11 2014, 09:24 PM![]() ![]() |
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