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> 2.7 Six conversion questions, Oil cooler and motronic
bigkensteele
post Feb 26 2015, 10:19 PM
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Topic 1: Has anyone ever tried mounting an oil cooler under a GT lid just above the fan, and if so does it keep the temp low enough for DE events?

Topic 2: Has anyone here ever adapted motronic from a 3.2 to work on a 2.7? If so, what is involved? Which distributor? What cam? Stock low compression CIS pistons or JEs?

Topic 3: What kind of power can I get if I keep the CIS but am willing to port the heads, change cams and go to JE pistons?

Please feel free to address any or all of the above? I have a '74 2.7 core that is currently torn apart and ready to send out for machining. It already has case-savers and nikasil jugs, so I am going to stay at 2.7. I have all of the CIS parts, so that is an option for induction, but I would rather do something else (other than carbs).

I will also be running stock 6 heat exchangers and a 911 muffler.

I just can't bear the thought of rebuilding this thing and only ending up with 150 hp, so any tips would be most appreciated.
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post Feb 28 2015, 11:16 PM
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I have a set of the Crane GE60 equivalents, but Bruce Anderson says that they are too much for a 2.7, so I am leaning toward a 964 grind. I am budgeting for 9.5:1 JE pistons rather than running the stock 8.5:1 CIS units. I did get lucky because my jugs are nikasil, so hopefully all they will need is a nice hone.

My hope is that if I bump up the compression to 9.5:1 with JEs and swap in 964 cams, I can get somewhere around 200hp with the Bitz MS kit and keep heat with the new Stoddard exchangers.

While I am in there, I will probably do the oil bypass mod if I can find a new pump. I may even try porting the heads with my Dremel. They are currently 32/32.

I can't find any local machine shop that I am comfortable with, so all of this is probably going to be sent to Ollies in AZ, unless someone can recommend an east coast shop.

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Ken
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post Mar 1 2015, 11:59 AM
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While I am in there, I will probably do the oil bypass mod if I can find a new pump. I may even try porting the heads with my Dremel. They are currently 32/32.

I can't find any local machine shop that I am comfortable with, so all of this is probably going to be sent to Ollies in AZ, unless someone can recommend an east coast shop.



I recomend Craig Garret (Cgarr on Pelican board). He just did an excellent job on a set of heads for me. Ported 32 out to 36. He also does case savers and the bypass mod but he does not do line boring.

At the very least, talk with him about your heads. He is very reasonable, does great work and is relatively quick and is very easy to deal with. At his prices, I would not screw around trying to do the ports yourself unless you are looking for the experience.
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bigkensteele   2.7 Six conversion questions   Feb 26 2015, 10:19 PM
GeorgeRud   My 2.7 has RS pistons, S cams, and Webers with an ...   Feb 26 2015, 10:26 PM
wndsrfr   My 2.7 has RS pistons, S cams, and Webers with an...   Feb 28 2015, 08:48 PM
campbellcj   In terms of the oil cooler, if you really don...   Feb 27 2015, 12:00 AM
bigkensteele   In terms of the oil cooler, if you really don...   Feb 27 2015, 12:17 PM
mepstein   I would talk to one of the really good engine buil...   Feb 27 2015, 06:21 AM
Mark Henry   Topic #1 link http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index....   Feb 27 2015, 06:24 AM
bigkensteele   Topic #1 link http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index...   Feb 27 2015, 12:15 PM
JmuRiz   Re: Motronic, I don't think I've heard of ...   Feb 27 2015, 11:36 AM
Steve   A 2.7 runs a lot hotter than an aluminum 3.0 or 3....   Feb 27 2015, 01:46 PM
bigkensteele   A 2.7 runs a lot hotter than an aluminum 3.0 or 3...   Feb 27 2015, 10:40 PM
gereed75   :agree: Not an experienced expert in 911's...   Feb 27 2015, 11:18 PM
Steve   A 2.7 runs a lot hotter than an aluminum 3.0 or ...   Feb 28 2015, 01:21 AM
GeorgeRud   When new, the 2.7 liter cars had oil coolers in Eu...   Feb 28 2015, 02:49 PM
Steve   I loved my 2.7 in my 914. You can run a stock 2.0...   Feb 28 2015, 04:44 PM
bigkensteele   I loved my 2.7 in my 914. You can run a stock 2....   Feb 28 2015, 05:43 PM
Steve   I loved my 2.7 in my 914. You can run a stock 2...   Feb 28 2015, 06:24 PM
bigkensteele   If you don't own it already, check out Bruce ...   Feb 28 2015, 06:31 PM
SirAndy   does it keep the temp low enough for DE events? He...   Feb 28 2015, 06:38 PM
bigkensteele   Here are your two choices: - Install a front mou...   Feb 28 2015, 07:04 PM
mepstein   Here are your two choices: - Install a front mo...   Feb 28 2015, 07:07 PM
bigkensteele   914 fenders do not get pass through air like a 91...   Feb 28 2015, 07:42 PM
Mark Henry   Some one did this and said it worked well, but it...   Feb 28 2015, 08:20 PM
SLITS   Some one did this and said it worked well, but it...   Mar 1 2015, 10:28 AM
JmuRiz   Most cam with CIS pistons is an SC grind or maybe ...   Feb 28 2015, 09:17 PM
bigkensteele   I have a set of the Crane GE60 equivalents, but Br...   Feb 28 2015, 11:16 PM
gereed75   While I am in there, I will probably do the oil...   Mar 1 2015, 11:59 AM
Van914   Ken, You can run a front cooler without changing t...   Mar 1 2015, 09:15 AM
Steve   I plan on doing the same thing with my chrome bump...   Mar 1 2015, 09:22 AM
campbellcj   I cut a notch out of an LE spoiler as well. I use...   Mar 1 2015, 11:41 AM
GeorgeRud   Ollie's should be a great choice. Since mine ...   Mar 1 2015, 04:40 PM
JmuRiz   FYI when pricing out a 2.45 for my brother, Henry...   Mar 1 2015, 06:51 PM
bigkensteele   Thanks to all for the responses. I was looking fo...   Mar 2 2015, 06:57 PM


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